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From: Reuben Thomas <rrt@sc3d.org>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
Cc: 18132@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#18132: Time for a smarter dired-guess-shell-alist-default? (dired-x.el)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 17:44:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOnWdoiiMd1fqrY=ZAXA4U9ctu0Vcx1BCj7B0U27A9sbJTdpkg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bns6dcul.fsf@mail.jurta.org>

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On 30 July 2014 17:32, Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org> wrote:

> >> run-mailcap is fully supported by shell-command and async-shell-command
> where
> >> the list of available commands can be accessed using M-n in its
> minibuffer.
> >
> > I can't see any mention of run-mailcap in the Emacs source; do you mean
> > simply that it's possible to add it to the list of commands used?
>
> grep -nH mailcap *.el
> ./dired-aux.el:558:(declare-function mailcap-file-default-commands
> "mailcap" (files))
> ./dired-aux.el:562:This function is used to add all related commands
> retrieved by `mailcap'
> ./dired-aux.el:565:  (let ((commands (and (boundp 'files) (require
> 'mailcap nil t)
> ./dired-aux.el:566:                    (mailcap-file-default-commands
> files))))
> ./simple.el:2743:(declare-function mailcap-file-default-commands "mailcap"
> (files))
> ./simple.el:2748:This function is used to add all related commands
> retrieved by `mailcap'
> ./simple.el:2754:        (commands (and filename (require 'mailcap nil t)
> ./simple.el:2755:                       (mailcap-file-default-commands
> (list filename)))))
>

I'm sorry if I've missed something, but I don't see what this has to do
with run-mailcap.


> We could leave the original list intact, and add xdg-open/w32-shell-execute
> to the top of the list, so it would be the first suggestion that the user
> will get after the first M-n.
>

It would be good to discourage customization of
dired-guess-shell-alist-{default,user}, and steer users towards the
non-program-specific mechanisms. It would also be good eventually not to
have to maintain the list, or indeed the dired-guess-shell mechanism at all.

As for your mention of "the first M-n", as far as I can discover, the first
time I press M-n, the default command, which was already mentioned in the
prompt, is simply inserted at point, as if I had typed it. So is "the first
suggestion that the user will get after the first M-n" actually the same
thing as "the default suggestion"? (I hope so!)


> There is a good example how to check its availability in
> `browse-url-can-use-xdg-open' that could be moved
> to a more general file like simple.el.
>

Thanks for the pointer.

-- 
http://rrt.sc3d.org

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Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-28 18:26 bug#18132: Time for a smarter dired-guess-shell-alist-default? (dired-x.el) Reuben Thomas
2014-07-28 18:44 ` bug#18132: Sample code Reuben Thomas
2014-07-29 23:49 ` bug#18132: Time for a smarter dired-guess-shell-alist-default? (dired-x.el) Juri Linkov
2014-07-30  9:12   ` Reuben Thomas
2014-07-30 16:32     ` Juri Linkov
2014-07-30 16:44       ` Reuben Thomas [this message]
2014-08-04 23:45         ` Juri Linkov
2014-08-05  9:41           ` Reuben Thomas
2021-10-23  5:25             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-23  7:44               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-23  8:16                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-23  8:34                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-23  9:48                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-23 11:48                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-23 13:06                       ` Reuben Thomas via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-10-23 13:20                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-23 13:01                   ` Reuben Thomas via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-10-23 13:56                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-23 14:03                       ` Reuben Thomas via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-10-23 15:45                         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-23 17:17                           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-23 20:53                           ` Reuben Thomas via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-10-24  6:02                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-24  7:56                               ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-23 17:49                                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-23 19:40                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-24  7:51                                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-24 14:24                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-25 18:10                                         ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-26 10:37                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-27 17:32                                             ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-28 17:05                                               ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-28 17:35                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-29  7:09                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-29 13:07                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-02 17:44                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-02 18:37                                                         ` Drew Adams
2023-12-03 17:04                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-03 21:16                                                             ` Drew Adams
2023-12-06 17:28                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-07 17:33                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-07 17:48                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-08  7:37                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-08  8:08                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-09 17:13                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-22  6:16                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-22 12:42                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-23  6:19                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-23  7:16                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-23 17:31                                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-23 18:15                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-24  6:44                                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-24  7:31                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-24 17:56                                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-23 17:57                       ` Howard Melman
2021-10-23 18:29                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-23 19:22                           ` bug#18132: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-24 16:35                           ` Howard Melman
2021-10-24 19:08                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-24  5:10                       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2014-07-30  3:56 ` Eli Zaretskii

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