From: John Mastro <john.b.mastro@gmail.com>
To: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: How to quote a list of functions?
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 14:16:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOj2CQSrZ+eANdN7pdXj=+nrWMGmwca5=fsvnY6kq-+e6MMT1w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vbch1gb0.fsf@nl106-137-147.student.uu.se>
>> It's true that in Emacs Lisp, unlike in e.g.
>> Common Lisp, there's no runtime difference between
>> 'foo and #'foo. However, the inspiration to "stop
>> and think" is arguably part of the benefit at the
>> beginning, because it helps you sharpen your
>> intuitive sense of "symbol-as-symbol" vs
>> "symbol-as-function".
>
> Why is that distinction as such of any value? I know
> a function when I see it, not because of notation, but
> because of context and its name, and I value much
> higher having the context and name speak to me loud and
> clear than putting that explicit with some ugly
> notation at that.
You mentioned a need to stop and think, and seemed unsure about whether
the first argument to `put' is a symbol or a function, so I took it that
the distinction was not entirely clear to you.
> For example, indentation is very helpful and should
> always and everywhere be used sensibly. So if I believe
> that, as a lisper, would I favor doing it the Python
> way, having it compulsory? Answer: Of course not.
I think you have this metaphor backward; all I said was that sharp-quote
can be helpful (like indentation), not that you should be compelled to
use it.
Pascal's point (that the sameness between `quote' and `function' in
Emacs Lisp is an implementation detail which, at least in principal,
could change) is perhaps stronger, but he's not saying that Emacs Lisp
should change to force you to use `quote' and `function' differently.
--
john
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2015-08-08 23:42 How to quote a list of functions? Marcin Borkowski
2015-08-08 23:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-09 0:09 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-08-09 6:18 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-09 8:04 ` Marcin Borkowski
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2015-08-09 0:33 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-08-09 8:06 ` Marcin Borkowski
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2015-08-09 10:26 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-08-09 10:47 ` Marcin Borkowski
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2015-08-09 11:42 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-08-09 1:53 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-08-09 8:05 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-08-09 15:58 ` Emanuel Berg
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2015-08-10 0:08 ` Barry Margolin
2015-08-10 2:02 ` Ian Zimmerman
2015-08-11 1:06 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-08-11 1:16 ` Emanuel Berg
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2015-08-11 6:16 ` Barry Margolin
2015-08-12 2:50 ` Emanuel Berg
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2015-08-12 7:01 ` Barry Margolin
2015-08-13 1:31 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-08-13 1:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-13 1:59 ` Emanuel Berg
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2015-08-13 4:20 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-08-13 23:55 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-08-14 0:38 ` John Mastro
2015-08-15 1:38 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-08-15 21:16 ` John Mastro [this message]
2015-08-16 23:56 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-08-17 0:06 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-08-17 0:34 ` Emanuel Berg
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2015-08-17 1:19 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-08-17 1:40 ` Emanuel Berg
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2015-08-17 2:31 ` Barry Margolin
2015-08-17 3:07 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-08-18 0:52 ` Emanuel Berg
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2015-08-18 1:32 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-08-19 0:11 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-08-17 3:04 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-08-18 1:00 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-08-18 1:54 ` Drew Adams
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2015-08-19 1:54 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-08-19 3:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-19 11:54 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-08-19 22:15 ` get all functions (was: Re: How to quote a list of functions?) Emanuel Berg
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2015-08-18 5:03 ` How to quote a list of functions? Rusi
2015-08-18 10:43 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
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2015-08-18 1:43 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
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2015-08-17 0:15 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-08-17 6:29 ` tomas
2015-08-18 1:03 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-08-18 7:44 ` tomas
2015-08-18 10:51 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-08-19 0:34 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-08-19 14:22 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-08-19 20:21 ` tomas
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2015-08-21 20:09 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
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2015-08-21 23:46 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
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2015-08-23 23:59 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
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2015-08-24 18:42 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
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2015-08-24 23:32 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
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2015-08-18 11:18 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
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2015-08-14 7:56 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
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2015-08-09 0:30 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
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2015-08-09 1:23 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
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