From: "Jarosław Rzeszótko" <jrzeszotko@gmail.com>
To: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Rename, delete and move current buffer and file
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 07:37:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAO_X8WDdWDHyeYLNK11t9zL5XeJpcZDBfkyoG72b-8SWHwZp3A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <89D62EC1-7B76-4590-9DE1-F8EEAE0B1C79@scratch.space>
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On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 1:50 AM, Van L <van@scratch.space> wrote:
>
> > On 9 May 2018, at 22:28, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I do not understand what you have in mind with write-file. This creates
> a
> >> copy, which is natural given the name. Do you envision some changes to
> it?
> >
> > Not sure what happened, but my first answer said:
> >
> > so maybe we could instead have `C-x C-w` prompt the user
> > "delete the old file (y or n)?"
> >
>
> Is there a channel for demand driven development? like:
>
> https://digitalocean.uservoice.com
>
> I believe in the longer term it is better for the Emacs devotee to learn
> enough of Dired to `type R’ for renaming a file or use the shell command in
> that context `! mv ? delete-me’.
>
This might be a personal thing, but Dired for a quick rename is a bit like
killing a fly with a cannon. I find anything involving additional buffers
distracting when I am focused on changing a set of files - I am typically
refactoring a program, which already involves keeping some items in working
memory.
It always seemed to me rename-this-file-and-buffer (or however it might be
called) is one of .emacs perennial "greatest hits". It also seems like a
natural extension of existing set of functions involving buffers and files.
Given this, I find the response here so far rather surprising. Personally I
hoped Emacs could incorporate more of the most common customizations (the
ones that do not involve breaking any compatibility or preexisting
behavior) into core, the amount of additional packages you have to install
in Emacs to make it competitive with a modern editor is huge, and involves
changing nearly everything, e.g. how page scrolling behaves, how copy/paste
behaves, ... If you look at something like prelude, some of it is very
opinionated, but some of it just plugs what are IMO obvious gaps in Emacs,
like this one, that could be patched without breaking anything.
Cheers,
Jarosław Rzeszótkot
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Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-07 13:58 Rename, delete and move current buffer and file Jarosław Rzeszótko
2018-05-07 14:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-07 16:20 ` Jarosław Rzeszótko
2018-05-07 17:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-07 17:47 ` Jarosław Rzeszótko
2018-05-08 1:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-08 7:05 ` Jarosław Rzeszótko
2018-05-09 12:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-09 18:12 ` Radon Rosborough
2018-05-09 22:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-10 17:01 ` Radon Rosborough
2018-05-10 21:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-11 7:31 ` Andreas Schwab
2018-05-11 15:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-11 15:45 ` Paul Eggert
2018-05-11 16:06 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-05-11 16:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-09 23:50 ` Van L
2018-05-10 5:37 ` Jarosław Rzeszótko [this message]
2018-05-10 13:18 ` Van L
2018-05-10 8:20 ` Amit Ramon
2018-05-10 8:59 ` Phil Sainty
2018-05-10 16:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-07 18:20 ` Andreas Schwab
2018-05-08 1:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-07 15:28 ` Yuri Khan
2018-05-07 16:20 ` Jarosław Rzeszótko
2018-05-09 11:46 ` Tino Calancha
2018-05-07 15:29 ` Andreas Röhler
2018-05-07 15:38 ` Andreas Röhler
2018-05-10 0:46 ` net june
2018-05-11 6:26 ` Andreas Röhler
2018-05-11 16:10 ` net june
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