From: "समीर सिंह Sameer Singh" <lumarzeli30@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Supporting stylistic sets
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2022 13:30:00 +0530 [thread overview]
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In-Reply-To: <83r101ntwi.fsf@gnu.org>
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>
> You are thinking about one particular use case. There might be
> others.
What might be the other use cases?
Btw, is it always the case that, when using a particular font, users
> will want to apply the same stylistic-set feature to all of the
> characters from the font that have alternative glyphs? If not, then
> font-level feature sets are not going to solve that, and we will need
> to be able to specify this for each character individually.
>
There are different stylistic-set features for different glyphs.
For example in FiraCode to change "a" there is cv01, for "g" cv02 etc.
or am I misunderstanding the question? (most likely)
On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 12:25 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> > From: समीर सिंह Sameer Singh <lumarzeli30@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2022 10:13:47 +0530
> > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> >
> > That means all text that uses the font will use that stylistic-set.
> > Is that good enough? What if you want to have the same font with and
> > without a specific stylistic-set in the same document?.
> >
> > Isn't the point of stylistic-set is that if you don't like a particular
> glyph of a font you can interchange it for
> > another, therefore I don't
> > see why someone would have the same font with and without the
> stylistic-set in the same document.
>
> You are thinking about one particular use case. There might be
> others.
>
> > For example: Tiro Bangla had set the stylistic set because the users
> could not agree how the হ্+ন and হ্+ণ
> > conjuncts should look[1].
> > It is the case for FiraCode too, simple variations of glyphs which the
> user can switch out according to their
> > preference.
>
> If we want to support the use case of "just change the appearance of a
> particular character", then a much simpler implementation would be to
> use the existing character-composition machinery. Specifically:
>
> . add a suitable entry to composition-function-table, with a regexp
> that matches the characters you want to affect
> . provide a new variable that can be used to specify which, if any,
> stylistic feature to use for each character (this could be a
> char-table, for example)
> . modify hbfont_shape to consult the above variable and apply the
> requested features to the affected character(s)
>
> Btw, is it always the case that, when using a particular font, users
> will want to apply the same stylistic-set feature to all of the
> characters from the font that have alternative glyphs? If not, then
> font-level feature sets are not going to solve that, and we will need
> to be able to specify this for each character individually.
>
> > And if the font is not the default face's font, it means you need to
> > setup a special face for using it anyway.
> >
> > You mean for scripts like Bangla, Devanagari etc?
> > For them defining their font-spec wouldn't work?
>
> I meant that the way to use a special font in Emacs, for ASCII
> characters, is to define a special face that uses that font.
>
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Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-23 12:54 Supporting stylistic sets समीर सिंह Sameer Singh
2022-09-23 15:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-23 17:27 ` समीर सिंह Sameer Singh
2022-09-23 17:31 ` Nicolas Ouellet-payeur
2022-09-23 18:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-23 19:20 ` Nicolas Ouellet-payeur
2022-09-23 20:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <CADuLPF5sKi4NMcGSdy1GAi8=KHBfUcVa3tV=XwnhPfWxroAJCA@mail.gmail.com>
2022-09-26 17:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-26 17:46 ` Nicolas Ouellet-payeur
2022-09-26 18:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-26 19:06 ` Yuri Khan
2022-09-26 19:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-23 17:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-23 18:26 ` Visuwesh
2022-09-23 18:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-24 4:59 ` Visuwesh
2022-09-24 6:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-24 8:42 ` Visuwesh
2022-09-24 4:43 ` समीर सिंह Sameer Singh
2022-09-24 6:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-24 8:00 ` समीर सिंह Sameer Singh [this message]
2022-09-24 8:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-24 8:34 ` समीर सिंह Sameer Singh
2022-09-24 8:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-24 8:41 ` समीर सिंह Sameer Singh
2022-09-24 8:50 ` समीर सिंह Sameer Singh
2022-09-24 12:09 ` समीर सिंह Sameer Singh
2022-09-24 12:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-24 12:45 ` समीर सिंह Sameer Singh
2022-09-24 13:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-24 13:10 ` समीर सिंह Sameer Singh
2022-09-24 14:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-24 14:26 ` समीर सिंह Sameer Singh
2022-09-24 15:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-24 15:02 ` समीर सिंह Sameer Singh
2022-09-24 15:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-24 15:50 ` समीर सिंह Sameer Singh
2022-09-24 16:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-24 16:42 ` Yuri Khan
2022-09-24 17:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-24 17:09 ` समीर सिंह Sameer Singh
2022-09-24 17:11 ` समीर सिंह Sameer Singh
2022-09-25 22:19 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
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