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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Do we really want to complicate Emacs to support the Wancho script? I don't get how adding support for the Wancho script is complicating Emacs, this was a relatively straightforward simple patch, even composition rules were not needed here. Wancho is included in Unicode therefore Emacs support is added. Wancho is normally written using the Latin alphabet or Devanagari. > Some schools are starting to teach writing Wancho using that alphabet > instead of the well-known alphabet. I suppose there is a campaign > for Wancho speakers to switch to it. > Have you considered that Wancho being a Sino-Tibetan language, Devanagari and Latin script may be inadequate to serve it? Is that really a good idea? I suspect it comes from a sort of > boosterism/ethnic nationalism, as if having your own script were a > mark of importance. > It is though, having a separate script also provides a unique identity to the language. For example take the Bhojpuri language it used to have its own script: Kaithi, but later switched to Devanagari, this I feel is one of the major reasons it is still not recognised as a language by the government but is instead treated as a dialect of Hindi. Many people regard it as a "less polished" version of Hindi. Urdu despite being virtually same with Hindi enjoys the status of a separate language. (Of course this also has many different reasons, but a having a different script is also one of them) Having a different script has aesthetic reasons as well for example how could latin replicate the beauty of devanagari conjuncts! Also look at the abomination that is the Vietnamese script. But I think it is counterproductive to introduce > more incompatibility of scripts. > Emacs should atleast support all of the unicode scripts, I don't know how moving towards that goal is "increasing incompatibility of scripts" Do we really want to spend time on Emacs supporting scripts > which were created recently and have little user base? > I do not ask anyone else to spend their time adding scripts to Emacs, since this is my wish I do it myself, and the Emacs maintainers graciously accept it and include it into Emacs providing corrections and guidance along the way. English does not have an alphabet of its own; it uses an alphabet > borrowed from Latin. Maybe English needs more prestige to compete > with Chinese and Hindi. Should we invent a new English alphabet? > I propse an Abugida =F0=9F=98=89 Maybe this time they could work on the orthography =F0=9F=A4=9E On Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 7:28 AM Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Do we really want to complicate Emacs to support the Wancho script? > According to Wikipedia, the Wancho script was invented 10 years ago; > Wancho is normally written using the Latin alphabet or Devanagari. > Some schools are starting to teach writing Wancho using that alphabet > instead of the well-known alphabet. I suppose there is a campaign > for Wancho speakers to switch to it. > > Is that really a good idea? I suspect it comes from a sort of > boosterism/ethnic nationalism, as if having your own script were a > mark of importance. But I think it is counterproductive to introduce > more incompatibility of scripts. > > Do we really want to spend time on Emacs supporting scripts > which were created recently and have little user base? > > English does not have an alphabet of its own; it uses an alphabet > borrowed from Latin. Maybe English needs more prestige to compete > with Chinese and Hindi. Should we invent a new English alphabet? > > -- > Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) > Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) > Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) > Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) > > > --000000000000c9ed0a05e9f1e57c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Do we really want to complicate Emacs to support the Wancho script?

I don't get how adding support for the Wancho = script is complicating Emacs, this
was a relatively straightforwa= rd simple patch, even composition rules were not needed
here. Wan= cho is included in Unicode therefore Emacs support is added.

=
Wancho is norm= ally written using the Latin alphabet or Devanagari.
Some schools are starting to teach writing Wancho using that alphabet
instead of the well-known alphabet.=C2=A0 I suppose there is a campaign
for Wancho speakers to switch to it.

= Have you considered that Wancho being a Sino-Tibetan language, Devanagari a= nd Latin script
may be inadequate to serve it?=C2=A0
Is that real= ly a good idea?=C2=A0 I suspect it comes from a sort of
boosterism/ethnic nationalism, as if having your own script were a
mark of importance.

It is though, hav= ing a separate script also provides a unique identity to the language.
For example take the Bhojpuri language it used to have its own script= : Kaithi, but later switched to
Devanagari, this I feel is one of= the major reasons it is still not recognised as a language by the governme= nt
but is instead treated as a dialect of Hindi. Many people rega= rd it as a "less polished" version of Hindi.
Urdu despi= te being virtually same with Hindi enjoys the status of a separate language= .
(Of course this also has many different reasons, but a having a= different script is also one of them)

Having a di= fferent script has aesthetic reasons as well for example how could latin re= plicate the beauty
of devanagari conjuncts!
Also lo= ok at the abomination that is the Vietnamese script.

But I think it is = counterproductive to introduce
more incompatibility of scripts.

Emac= s should atleast support all of the unicode scripts, I don't know how m= oving towards that goal is
"increasing incompatibility of sc= ripts"

Do we really want to spend time on Emacs supporting scripts
which were created recently and have little user base?

I do not ask anyone else to spend their time adding s= cripts to Emacs, since this is my wish I do it myself,
and the Em= acs maintainers graciously accept it=C2=A0 and include it into Emacs provid= ing corrections and guidance along the way.

English does not have an alphab= et of its own; it uses an alphabet
borrowed from Latin.=C2=A0 Maybe English needs more prestige to compete
with Chinese and Hindi.=C2=A0 Should we invent a new English alphabet?

I propse an Abugida=C2=A0=F0=9F=98= =89
Maybe this time they could work on the orthography =F0=9F=A4= =9E

On Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 7:28 AM Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my e= mail: please consider=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]<= br>
Do we really want to complicate Emacs to support the Wancho script?
According to Wikipedia, the Wancho script was invented 10 years ago;
Wancho is normally written using the Latin alphabet or Devanagari.
Some schools are starting to teach writing Wancho using that alphabet
instead of the well-known alphabet.=C2=A0 I suppose there is a campaign
for Wancho speakers to switch to it.

Is that really a good idea?=C2=A0 I suspect it comes from a sort of
boosterism/ethnic nationalism, as if having your own script were a
mark of importance.=C2=A0 But I think it is counterproductive to introduce<= br> more incompatibility of scripts.

Do we really want to spend time on Emacs supporting scripts
which were created recently and have little user base?

English does not have an alphabet of its own; it uses an alphabet
borrowed from Latin.=C2=A0 Maybe English needs more prestige to compete
with Chinese and Hindi.=C2=A0 Should we invent a new English alphabet?

--
Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org)
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)


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