From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Evgeny Zajcev Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What is `image-compute-scaling-factor' for? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261718 Archived-At: --000000000000b3656905b7442485 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =D0=BF=D1=82, 25 =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BA. 2020 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 09:15, Lars Ingebr= igtsen : > Evgeny Zajcev writes: > > > I really can't get how this default behaviour could be ok, see > screenshots: > > http://lgarc.narod.ru/pics/screenshot-scale.png > > Looks OK to me -- you have huge characters, so you get huge images, > which is a good default, since people presumably have huge characters > because they need to. > > If you don't like the heuristics, you know what to do. If you've chosen > to have huge characters for whimsical reasons, you have a very unusual > setup: People normally choose a font size based on what's comfortable > for them to read. > Normally people expect that everything scales if you are zooming in or out. For example M-x text-scale-increase RET should scale images as well for sure. However, having font setup affecting the way images are displayed is something new. None of the software I've been using does so. You can set any default font size in Mozilla/Chrome/Opera without affecting image sizes, but if you do "zoom-in", then everything zooms in, text and images. Same for UI elements in Ubuntu for example, you can set font size to whatever you want value without affecting image sizes, on the other hand you have a "scaling" parameter, which affects everything - font size and images. Anyway, thanks for the clarification! I will just set `image-scaling-factor` to the value I'm ok with --=20 lg --000000000000b3656905b7442485 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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=D0=BF=D1=82, 25 =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BA. = 2020 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 09:15, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>:
Evgeny Zajcev <lg.zevlg@gmail.com> writes:

> I really can't get how this default behaviour could be ok, see scr= eenshots:
> http://lgarc.narod.ru/pics/screenshot-scale.png<= /a>

Looks OK to me -- you have huge characters, so you get huge images,
which is a good default, since people presumably have huge characters
because they need to.

If you don't like the heuristics, you know what to do.=C2=A0 If you'= ;ve chosen
to have huge characters for whimsical reasons, you have a very unusual
setup: People normally choose a font size based on what's comfortable for them to read.


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