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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:313397 Archived-At: --000000000000e0e33a060b5ddaa1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 1:12=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Spencer Baugh > > Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 14:17:57 -0500 > > Cc: juri@linkov.net, sbaugh@catern.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 10:52=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii w= rote: > > > > > From: Spencer Baugh > > > Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 10:21:47 -0500 > > > Cc: juri@linkov.net, sbaugh@catern.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > I feel confident that more users will understand "History order" tha= n > "in the > > > order of their typing". > > > > > > How about "Sorted in the order of minibuffer history"? > > > > That's better, but if you are okay with that, how about "Sorted in the > > chronological order of minibuffer input"? > > > > That does not mention history, so I think it's worse - how are user > supposed to know it's about > > history? > > ?? Didn't you yourself say several messages ago it was NOT about > history? I quote: > > > > Oh, no, this is about sorting completion candidates, not history. > > So now you say this IS about history? > It's about sorting completion candidates so that their order matches the order of the minibuffer history. So yes, it relates to history. But it's not sorting the history - that's what I meant. > But I'm okay with "Sorted in chronological order of minibuffer history". > > This is tautology: history is always in chronological order. We are > in effect wasting one word by repeating another. > Okay, I agree. I think "history" is the more important of the two words here, so how about "Sorted in order of minibuffer history" > --000000000000e0e33a060b5ddaa1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 1:12=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 14:17:57 -0500
> Cc: juri@linkov.net, sbaugh@catern.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org >
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 10:52=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org&= gt; wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 > From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com> >=C2=A0 > Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 10:21:47 -0500
>=C2=A0 > Cc: juri@linkov.net, sbaugh@catern.com, emacs-devel@gn= u.org
>=C2=A0 > I feel confident that more users will understand "Hist= ory order" than "in the
>=C2=A0 > order of their typing".
>=C2=A0 >
>=C2=A0 > How about "Sorted in the order of minibuffer history&q= uot;?
>
>=C2=A0 That's better, but if you are okay with that, how about &quo= t;Sorted in the
>=C2=A0 chronological order of minibuffer input"?
>
> That does not mention history, so I think it's worse - how are use= r supposed to know it's about
> history?

?? Didn't you yourself say several messages ago it was NOT about
history?=C2=A0 I quote:

> > Oh, no, this is about sorting completion candidates, not history.=

So now you say this IS about history?

It's about sorting completion can= didates so that their order matches the order of the minibuffer history.=C2= =A0 So yes, it relates to history.=C2=A0 But it's not sorting the histo= ry - that's what I meant.


> But I'm okay with "Sorted in chronological order of minibuffe= r history".

This is tautology: history is always in chronological order.=C2=A0 We are in effect wasting one word by repeating another.

Okay, I agree. I think &quo= t;history" is the more important of the two words here, so how about &= quot;Sorted in order of minibuffer history"
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