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From: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 58193@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#58193: 29.0.50; Screen flickers on with-locale-environment
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 09:23:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAO48Bk8wKLxT7X7M6bgA+N8qc-eaqYs_JNOLM=RAMCrp5TrXYA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83y1u0auk4.fsf@gnu.org>

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On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 at 09:10, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> > From: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 08:14:36 +0200
> > Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>, 58193@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> I understand your use case.  I'm arguing about the default, not about
> the need to support your use case.  The default should be to redraw
> the frame, and your use case should be supported by having some
> variable that you could bind around the call of the macro, to prevent
> redrawing.
>

Good, I could live with that


> > Maybe we should leave this macro as-is because of the legacy and work
> towards something in the line of the
> > cl-setlocale function in Common LISP.
>
> Common Lisp is just a programming language, it is not a display
> editor.  In Emacs, certain operations that affect the display should
> be immediately reflected on display.
>

So, one implication of my question is whether all operations that need a
specific locale to be set need the display redrawn...

> If you look at 'man setlocale' as an inspiration of what I would be
> dreaming of...
>
> setlocale is a low-level function that is called by Emacs as part of
> this macro.


I know, and I was wondering if we could create an Elisp construct that
*only* uses setlocate if we are sure that we do not need to redraw the
screen

I think we are approaching 'violent agreement' :-)

Thx, /PA


-- 
Fragen sind nicht da um beantwortet zu werden,
Fragen sind da um gestellt zu werden
Georg Kreisler

Headaches with a Juju log:
unit-basic-16: 09:17:36 WARNING juju.worker.uniter.operation we should run
a leader-deposed hook here, but we can't yet

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-01  7:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-30 13:05 bug#58193: 29.0.50; Screen flickers on with-locale-environment Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-09-30 13:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-30 14:14 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-30 15:43   ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-09-30 16:31     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-01  7:26       ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-10-01  9:57         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-30 17:31   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-30 17:34     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-30 17:40       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-30 17:43         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-30 18:34           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-01  6:14             ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-10-01  7:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-01  7:23                 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez [this message]
2022-10-01  7:33                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-01  8:19                     ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-10-01  9:10                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-01 10:46                     ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-10-01 12:05                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-01 13:33                         ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-10-02 11:58                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-03  5:37                             ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-10-03  9:03                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-03 16:38                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-03 16:47                                 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-10-03 17:30                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-04  6:10                                     ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-10-01  9:56             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-01  9:57               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-01 10:01               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-01 10:12                 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-10-02 11:57                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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