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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:270460 Archived-At: --000000000000b011e705c41244c6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > Then why use TRAMP at all? Anyway, this is just an aside, but running > the server remotely and also editing the files via TRAMP is still > popular and predates LSP by many years: Many use the SLIME or SLY Common > Lisp IDEs like that, pretty effectively. Personally I prefer running an > Emacs on the remote machine, but there's clearly a share of users who > like to keep use one local Emacs for everything. When you are dealing with Virtual Machines that have a very specific purpose (Network Function Virtualisation comes to my mind where every specific component and package needs to be certified, and, on top, every byte counts), I've see the real advantage in TRAMP to access the VM and fix configurations. Another example can be the different impersonation of containers, where the environment is even tighter. In all these cases, I can't see emacs or LSP running on the target environment. Best, /PA -- Fragen sind nicht da um beantwortet zu werden, Fragen sind da um gestellt zu werden Georg Kreisler --000000000000b011e705c41244c6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> Then why use TRAMP at all?=C2=A0 Anyway, this is just an aside, but ru= nning
> the server remotely and also editing the files via TRAMP is still
&= gt;=20 popular and predates LSP by many years: Many use the SLIME or SLY Common>=20 Lisp IDEs like that, pretty effectively.=C2=A0 Personally I prefer running = an
>=20 Emacs on the remote machine, but there's clearly a share of users who > like to keep use one local Emacs for everything.

When you are dealing with Virtual Machines that have a very = specific purpose (Network Function Virtualisation comes to my mind where ev= ery specific component and package needs to be certified, and, on top, ever= y byte counts), I've see the real advantage in TRAMP to access the VM a= nd fix configurations. Another example can be the different impersonation o= f containers, where the environment is even tighter. In all these cases, I = can't see=C2=A0 emacs or LSP running on the target environment.

Best, /PA
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