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From: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: arash@gnu.org, Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
	jb@jeremybryant.net, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
Subject: Re: Re Re: Why not include all ELPA packages in an Emacs release?
Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 18:31:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAO48Bk-=EKDRH8mVsV_S0Kw4heyC02nfwjCvxkMHx7C_X4Hk6w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)

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>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>>
>> > If there are packages on ELPA which we consider to be a must for users
>> > (I don't think there are, but maybe I'm forgetting something), lets
>> > add them to core instead.
>>
>> If Emacs considers in-buffer completion an important feature, then I'd
>> say corfu and cape are must.  vertico and marginalia are also must in my
>> book since they offer a better experience with vertical minibuffer
>> completion.

> If people want them, and their developers agree, we can add them.

<irony>At this point, why not company, which BTW works nicely both on
windows and -nw Emacs?</irony>
<seriously>For every package you think of integrating, there will be a lot
of people how use a different package for the functionality, so this spells
exchanges without end here and a lot of users frustrated in the world
outside the list </seriously>

>> And while we're at it: There are sometimes requests for adding AUCTeX to
>> core.  Do you have an opinion about that?
>
>I don't mind.  But let's hear what others think.

Well, AUCTeX was so feature-bloated that made me start using vanilla Emacs
and writing the things I really needed myself. So grateful it existed,
because it made my elisp evolve :-)

Now seriously, One of the nicest things in Emacs is the package repo(s).
I have the Emacs I want because we have use-package (and that is not so
long ago)
to make our lives (relatively) easy. And I dread to think what would happen
WTR to size of the distributable object (.app in macos, .rpm/.deb/.snap in
Linux,
etc.) if we start shipping everything in it.

My .2 cents
-- 
Fragen sind nicht da, um beantwortet zu werden,
Fragen sind da um gestellt zu werden
Georg Kreisler

Headaches with a Juju log:
unit-basic-16: 09:17:36 WARNING juju.worker.uniter.operation we should run
a leader-deposed hook here, but we can't yet

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             reply	other threads:[~2024-05-29 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-29 16:31 Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez [this message]
2024-05-29 20:36 ` Re Re: Why not include all ELPA packages in an Emacs release? Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-30  6:16   ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2024-05-30  6:31     ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-30 10:36       ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2024-05-30 14:34     ` A small(er) Emacs (was: Why not include all ELPA packages in an Emacs release?) Stefan Monnier

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