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From: chad <yandros@gmail.com>
To: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How to get DISPLAY of emacsclient?
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2022 19:41:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAO2hHWbHuUXv1ZV4gHnp7gg08qdceURpWwvbQQx8W53hGNK0vQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tm5bmn$17ia$1@ciao.gmane.io>

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On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 1:11 PM Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> wrote:

> [...]
> Add to user notes content of X selection when emacs is started as
> daemong with no frames and the user prefers to avoid distraction due to
> creation of a new frame.
>

In general, you seem to assume that there's no way for emacs to create a
new X11 frame object without it being immediately visible to the user. In
my experience, that's only true in the limited subset of cases where the
user has chosen a window manager that enforces that choice. Further, that
wasn't the default when I last looked -- but that was quite some time ago,
and I don't know about the current options/defaults for common X11-based
display systems of today. Can anyone shed some light on this?

On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 1:11 PM Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> wrote:

> [...]

User connected to another machine through ssh (e.g. from a laptop to a
> desktop). In this case DISPLAY is different for the client and for the
> server process. (gui-get-selection) should be executed for client's
> DISPLAY.
>

In the past, I have regularly seen both varieties of this: where the user
was logged into two machines, with an emacs server running on one, X
displays on both, and wanted a new emacs frame on either one, depending on
circumstances. As near as I can tell, there is no "right" choice here; the
user needs to (be able to) provide input on which display to use.

This is a fundamentally different case from "the user wants to use a
non-graphical X11-based mechanism that emacs normally doesn't enable until
emacs actually connects to a working X11 display", and I think it should be
possible to get emacs to make that connection without necessarily popping
up a window that the user doesn't want.

I hope that helps,
~Chad
P.S. Now that I've said it "out loud", I expect to learn that either the
Wayland people now consider that a security hole and will disallow it, or
that they already did so.

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-30  0:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-25 15:17 How to get DISPLAY of emacsclient? Max Nikulin
2022-11-25 16:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-26  3:36   ` Max Nikulin
2022-11-26 21:33     ` chad
2022-11-27 11:34       ` Max Nikulin
2022-11-27 13:42         ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-27 14:23           ` Max Nikulin
2022-11-27 14:38             ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-27 15:26               ` Max Nikulin
2022-11-27 16:12                 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-28  1:19             ` Po Lu
2022-11-27 20:36     ` Jim Porter
2022-11-28 15:33       ` Max Nikulin
2022-11-28 17:15         ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-28 18:19         ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-29 16:23           ` Max Nikulin
2022-11-30  0:41             ` chad [this message]
2022-11-30  2:44               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-30 12:47                 ` Max Nikulin

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