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From: chad <yandros@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: "Clément Pit-Claudel" <cpitclaudel@gmail.com>,
	"EMACS development team" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: interactive feel of Emacs: the need for speed, and -Q [measure.el]
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 13:05:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAO2hHWb9+QGsTcOwgSGNp0j8GWzAht=AJ0vNWvW_VX4AagJ=Sw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvh7xjchxv.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

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I long ago adopted the use of require in my .emacs file as a well-worn
shorthand for "load this unless it's already loaded". Is there an
alternative that I should be using instead? (Please forgive the thread
necromancy; I just ran across this usage of require again today, and
remembered this thread.)

Thanks,
~Chad

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 1:14 PM Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
wrote:

> >>>>> Here are my requires:
> >>> As a general rule, `require` should not appear in a `~/.emacs`.
> >>> It's for use at the top of a library file.
> > What's the replacement, then?
> >> They should be replaced with the relevant (load-file "...autoloads").
> > That doesn't do the same thing at all.  What if you want to use functions
> > that are not autoloaded, or macros?
>
> In your ~/.emacs?
>
> Presumably if users can be expected to use a function/macro directly
> from ~/.emacs, the package should mark that function/macro as autoloaded
> (especially for macros; for functions this can often be avoided if the
> function is expected to be called only from with the corresponding mode
> hook or an `eval-after-load`).
>
> If not, it's a case that doesn't fall within the "general rule" and then
> you'd have to consider the details to know what *should* happen and what
> can be done temporarily until the ideal situation can be applied.
>
>
>         Stefan
>
>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-23 20:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-30  5:00 interactive feel of Emacs: the need for speed, and -Q [measure.el] Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-03-30 15:32 ` Drew Adams
2020-04-07 16:25   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2020-04-07 16:49     ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2020-04-08  5:51       ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2020-04-08 14:17         ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2020-04-12  1:16           ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2020-04-12  2:51             ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2020-04-14 23:00               ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2020-04-15  1:34                 ` T.V Raman
2020-04-15  2:21                   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2020-04-15 14:51                     ` T.V Raman
2020-04-15 15:43             ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-04-15 16:06               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-16 19:14                 ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-16 19:59                   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-16 20:14                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-23 20:05                       ` chad [this message]
2020-04-23 20:43                         ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-23 20:57                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-23 23:35                           ` chad
2020-04-24  3:28                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-17  8:48                     ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-16 20:04                   ` Stefan Monnier

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