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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:320574 Archived-At: --00000000000097d098061b94e453 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 9:46=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 13:29:21 +0000 > > Cc: Daniel Colascione , > > Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org > > From: Alan Mackenzie > > > > I speak from experience here. org mode binds some arrow key > > combinations. Two of these, C-S- and C-S- which do some mino= r > > thing in org mode are bindings I use to scroll the current window > > down/up 6 lines. So, when somebody changed NEWS from outline mode to > > org mode some while ago > > NEWS is not visited using Org mode, it uses a special News mode, which > is a minor variation of Outline mode. > When I run emacs -Q, there is no binding for C-S-Up in Emacs News. That said: (use-package org :bind (:map org-mode-map > ("C-S-" . nil) ("C-S-" . nil))) Hope that helps, ~Chad --00000000000097d098061b94e453 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 9:46=E2=80=AF= AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> w= rote:
> Date:= Sun, 23 Jun 2024 13:29:21 +0000
> Cc: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>,
>=C2=A0 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
>
> I speak from experience here.=C2=A0 org mode binds some arrow key
> combinations.=C2=A0 Two of these, C-S-<up> and C-S-<down> = which do some minor
> thing in org mode are bindings I use to scroll the current window
> down/up 6 lines.=C2=A0 So, when somebody changed NEWS from outline mod= e to
> org mode some while ago

NEWS is not visited using Org mode, it uses a special News mode, which
is a minor variation of Outline mode.

W= hen I run emacs -Q, there is no binding for C-S-Up in Emacs News. That said= :

(us= e-package org :bind (:map org-mode-map
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ("C-S-<up>&= quot; . nil)
= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 ("C-S-<down>" . nil)))=C2=A0
Hope that helps,
~Chad

=C2= =A0
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