From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: chad Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] Allow applying filters to summary consecutively Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 15:57:39 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87r0y8m5jc.fsf@autistici.org> <34e17bf2a696327b972f@heytings.org> <518ded72c37a31fdd6a9@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a5e93d05ee298ad8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37508"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Gregory Heytings , andrea.monaco@autistici.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 23 21:58:30 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oxwpA-0009Ws-KJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 21:58:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oxwoe-0002Wt-F8; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 15:57:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oxwoc-0002Wi-Qh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 15:57:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-yb1-xb36.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::b36]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oxwob-0002Zp-AM; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 15:57:54 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-yb1-xb36.google.com with SMTP id e76so13505065yba.5; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 12:57:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=DpJy6NNBnjyWB8vBqr307B7D6d8rclQp7N8q+nJHqQA=; b=JU1mOrpWM8hP1vJDSrn/ki09URD96pa4z0LWETmoSpLHcLRTWTrHr5MuSB+hyfdDwt iPqRDgGMPYHfRMWT+tSes07zEUe6tp/oSEjZdq9GHrxu5hxFbcMcGp/z3SIuBgWm9qq7 CeMRvyZOILjxPF0SuxjBcyZLVT+Xwnbt2ZsOJ/u+RLGGeFTZ7OomjTDy05F8ISONq30y +cZDqqm2x44fJf56uU9hVBaTS7QzsNBiEnDrt7ohiyzklBAU+9tJN8Nc8kXsLfntPU2n a/bAUAA0HHwjSnqKKCE3L5yVB+DXITjqOUbTNCe5uUN9aBz3SnTyAfm72r/wMLpwLKcM DE/g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=DpJy6NNBnjyWB8vBqr307B7D6d8rclQp7N8q+nJHqQA=; b=2O/zirRi7REk68cq06f+Q7OxeWbDt0G7WH1b4dEn7qCtTolyACN2/HxODi5+tySg5g 7hSY4vxHfepziDvuQq6oxjcDuuJSTxvPXoDBlHneWxkK85P2bVyNE9g+CubUMe9X4x4D Y91Nl0ZBUfd9ClWgs1cGO2RrexnE+5N6C7jNevoOEmVsJdajdBNTGCt96rQl7p9sVefm CF+KxX9/ZGyuXuRdrJqbIETJ0+R8FMbI8gOosmqvoq0WvQVt3Vn9ItJl1eabiWz3vtNw 1bK6y/Q8ds3tNJJPGP1dxjGZ3eraCJ9uFtquT+4khzZi47ALHSmXAe+hfUkUwswLFCfP kAFQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pmqQT8nmJrlAtjVRUt8okZdnxxe2BqlStE5+gbUyMKJlA1RgWUk 1VUPkSs3vdaEWE8wdtHdu8801PZViq4KvxIpgRmL1C8Z X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf6wuFhKSg/subq63uzFVCnGBFb/Re4X2JI+qQjh4Ew5PeyoafL2YhTC81ONIy46b3yKXPPBnjGqLdyPyJJiAQs= X-Received: by 2002:a25:c60b:0:b0:6f1:2ab3:2ffc with SMTP id k11-20020a25c60b000000b006f12ab32ffcmr1047292ybf.5.1669237070750; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 12:57:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::b36; envelope-from=yandros@gmail.com; helo=mail-yb1-xb36.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:300410 Archived-At: --000000000000a5e93d05ee298ad8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" FWIW, many years ago, I had to switch from RMAIL to mh due to some of the factors Gregory mentioned, especially infrequent but troublesome corrupted rmail files and problems with multiple concurrent clients. These problems are rare when users only use a single device to read from local storage, but even 25 years ago I was using multiple geographically separated computers and shared networked storage. RMAIL also suffered, performance-wise, as email volume increased. Certainly, some of these problems were more due to movemail than BABYL. That said, I think the existence of very old email clients such as nmh (and mh-e) and alpine/mutt and newer clients such as notmuch and mu/m4e provide enough alternatives to rmail that (I suppose) the interest in an updated rmail is very small. I hope that helps, ~Chad --000000000000a5e93d05ee298ad8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
FWIW, many years ago, I had to switch from RMAIL to mh due= =C2=A0to some of the factors Gregory mentioned, especially infrequent but t= roublesome corrupted rmail files and problems with multiple concurrent=C2= =A0clients. These problems are rare when users only use a single device to = read from local storage, but even 25 years ago I was using multiple geograp= hically separated computers and shared networked storage. RMAIL also suffer= ed, performance-wise, as email volume increased. Certainly, some of these p= roblems were more due to movemail than BABYL.

That said,= I think the existence of very old email clients such as nmh (and mh-e) and= alpine/mutt and newer clients such as notmuch and mu/m4e provide enough al= ternatives to rmail that (I suppose) the interest in an updated rmail is ve= ry small.

I hope that helps,
~Chad
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