From: "Tor-björn Claesson" <tclaesson@gmail.com>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark?
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2024 14:16:20 +0200 [thread overview]
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Hi!
Thanks all for the great discussion!
Just so I understand: we are talking about simple cases of offering
multiple actions (possibly on objects),
and not more complex things such as the export menu, with async options etc?
> Tentatively, I am thinking about the following:
>
> For a given Emacs "prefix" command (e.g. org-open-at-point), we define a
> set of customizations:
>
> 1. List of possible actions: ((name1 . action1 props) (name2 . action2
...) ...)
> PROPS is a plist defining extra properties like key-binding, display
> string, maybe something else to be used in the future.
> 2. Menu interface to use (transient, context-menu, embark, which-key)
> 3. Layout settings for the specific interfaces. For example, transient
> layout definition.
Do we need 3? Could we decide on a way to specify layout properties in
props?
We could have e.g. a group name which would translate to a transient column.
The citation follower prototype works similarly to right click menus of
mainstream desktop environments - i.e. it allows the user to optionally
select an alternative action while providing a default.
You "right click" by -4 prefix, and can also invert this behavior to show
the menu by default, and invoking the default action if called with a -4
prefix.
Den mån 16 dec. 2024 kl 20:06 skrev Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>:
>
> Yeah. I am not 100% sure if adding an abstraction layer is a great idea.
> Another idea I was considering is similar to what you propose: have some
> kind of hook like `context-menu-functions', but accepting an extra
> argument - menu type (context menu, transient, which-key, etc.). Then, it
> should produce appropriate menu spec.
>
> However, this will require Elisp to customize things. Also not ideal.
>
My naive take:
Should we make a macro for creating this kind of simple menu? It would take
a name, a docstring, parameters passed to the action, a default action
name, and a default list of actions.
It would then create
1. a function that invokes the menu, passing the parameters.
2. a customization group with options for:
2.1. the actions list.
2.2. the default action.
2.3. whether to show menu by default (or by -4 prefix)
2.4. the menu system to invoke (default transient)?
3. a transient menu.
Does this sound reasonable? I probably miss something. I would be happy to
try to make this, but am a bit swamped with the holidays, so it would have
to wait a bit.
Cheers,
Tor-björn
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2024-09-14 12:36 Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu? Tor-björn Claesson
2024-09-15 14:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-09-17 12:18 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-09-22 12:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-09-24 10:07 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-10-12 17:31 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-22 7:23 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-10-22 17:58 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-24 14:18 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2024-10-24 17:32 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-26 11:45 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2024-10-27 8:09 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-27 9:17 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-10-29 4:58 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-10-29 18:55 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-30 5:37 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-10-30 18:43 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-31 18:55 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-10-31 19:05 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-31 20:47 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-01 8:27 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-01 17:08 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-02 19:04 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-02 19:21 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-02 21:37 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-03 7:40 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-05 10:07 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-09 14:08 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-10 16:33 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-10 16:41 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-11 10:03 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-11 15:52 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-12 9:26 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-12 18:03 ` Ihor Radchenko
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2024-11-17 9:30 ` Fwd: " Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-23 16:41 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-25 17:49 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-12-10 19:11 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-11 9:57 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-12-11 10:05 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-12-13 18:41 ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?) Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-13 22:09 ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? Gabriel Santos
2024-12-14 9:57 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-14 10:59 ` Gabriel Santos
2024-12-14 13:10 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-13 22:57 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-14 9:59 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-14 14:30 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-14 1:16 ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?) Panayotis Manganaris
2024-12-14 10:08 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-15 21:20 ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-16 17:54 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-17 2:08 ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-17 2:24 ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-17 18:04 ` Transient: accessibility problems for users who need to use large fonts (was: [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?)) Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-18 7:19 ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-18 10:52 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2024-12-19 1:42 ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-19 1:50 ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-18 17:59 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-19 1:48 ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-19 18:04 ` [FR] Allow SPC to scroll todo/tag selection menu - for users with huge accessible fonts (was: Transient: accessibility problems for users who need to use large fonts (was: [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?))) Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-20 6:55 ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-18 10:47 ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?) Jonas Bernoulli
2024-12-19 17:42 ` Internal variables and symbols in transient (was: [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?)) Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-19 18:11 ` Alternative defaults for visually impaired users? " Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-22 4:49 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-22 9:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-22 12:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-22 18:17 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-22 18:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-14 10:50 ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? indieterminacy
2024-12-14 17:53 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-15 9:07 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-16 7:46 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-16 18:06 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-22 12:16 ` Tor-björn Claesson [this message]
2024-12-15 18:23 ` Kierin Bell
2024-12-17 17:23 ` Ihor Radchenko
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2024-12-14 0:37 [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?) Psionic K
2024-12-14 9:48 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-14 10:12 ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? Philip Kaludercic
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