The issue occurs with the default fonts too ("emacs -Q"). On Windows that means `Courier New' for `default' and `Monospace' for `fixed-pitch', `Monospace Serif` for `fixed-pitch-serif' and `Arial` for `variable-pitch'. With these default settings, the `package-list-packages' buffer works mostly fine, but the info page `(cl) Structures' for instace does not. Using different fonts, e.g. `Linux Libertine Mono' or `Noto Mono', the issue becomes only more widespread. I detail, I noticed that the issue indeed does occur specifically *when font substitution kicks in*. In the info-page for `(cl) Structure' this occurs, because the "=>" is replaced by the unicode symbol "⇒", which is displayed in a different font; Sadly I can't figure out a way to identify the substituted font; It is definitely a variable-pitch font (the symbol is wider than the default font, such that characters are no longer vertically aligned with other lines). For such font-substituted characters, there are multiple cases where I observed delays. 1. When the character becomes visible in the current window (small delay if caused by a single input event, but can crash Emacs when scrolling-events, and thus delays, queue up). 2. When `point' is moved to the line containing the character, either with mouse or keyboard (somewhat bigger delay). 3. When `point' is moved to the character itself, either with mouse or keyboard (extensive delay). 4. Whenever there is any change to the Window-layout (e.g. splitting the window, or resizing the frame). My guess would be that custom fonts only make the issue more apparent, because font-substitution may become more widespread. If there is any possibility to identify the font used in font substitution (it doesn't affect the text-attributes apparently, so C-u C-x = doesn't help), I could check if the issue is related to one of the fonts I have installed on my system. - Klaus 2016-11-28 16:47 GMT+01:00 Eli Zaretskii : > > From: Klaus-Dieter Bauer > > Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 22:12:48 +0100 > > Cc: 24918@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > I tried compiling the emacs-25 branch , freshly cloned (25.1.50.1) and > ran it as "emacs -Q". I hope that is the > > version you meant. > > > > The issue persists unless setting (setq inhibit-compacting-font-caches > t), as before. > > > > It can be reproduced by scrolling (with mouse or keyboard) in info node > `(cl) Structures'. If scrolling fast, such > > that the multiple input events queue up while Emacs is hanging, Emacs > freezes permanently and has to be > > killed. > > Is this because you use the Noto Mono font, or is this with the > default fonts? If the latter, please show how you customized Emacs to > use Noto Mono. > > Thanks. >