From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "David M. Miller" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Windows emacs-25.1 i686 vs x86_64? 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That's what I was asking. One question though, what runs the shell scripts, absent any recognizable shell (bash or sh, ash, zsh, etc.) executable in the bin directory? --David On Nov 3, 2016 12:28 PM, "Phillip Lord" wrote: > "David M. Miller" writes: > > > On Thursday, November 3, 2016 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-4, David M. Miller > wrote: > >> When I went to download 25.1 for windows I saw two packages on the main > GNU ftp server: > >> > >> emacs-25.1-i686-w64-mingw32.zip > >> - AND - > >> emacs-25.1-x86_64-w64-mingw32.zip > >> > >> but no explanation of the difference between them in the README file. > >> > >> Also, there seems to be a separate package of "deps" for each: > >> > >> emacs-25-i686-deps.zip > >> - AND - > >> emacs-25-x86_64-deps.zip > >> > >> the need for which is also not explained anywhere (dependencies? > dependencies for what?). > >> > >> Does anyone know what the difference between the i686 and x86_64 > packages are? > >> Does anyone know what the "deps" packages are for? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> David > > > > After examining both main emacs packages, I think I figured out the > obscure > > naming conventions: 'i686' refers to the 32-bit version, while 'x86_64' > refers > > to the 64-bit version. So this answers my first question. > > > > I have no intention of doing so, but I still wonder whether the "deps" > package > > is intended for *BUILDING* emacs, or if it provides runtime binary > support for > > some of the more obscure elisp facilities. > > > Apologies for this. I built those packages, and haven't got around to > updating the README. I will try and do so tonight. > > i686 and x86_64 are the 32 and 64 bit versions respectively. The names > come from the names for these platforms used in ./configure. Probably > not something that I should be inflicting on users. The "deps" package > are the external dependencies that Emacs uses, for features like XML > parsing, image rendering and so forth. If you unpack these over the > relevant version of Emacs, it's powers will be magically enhanced. > > Phil >