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From: Josh <josh@foxtail.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 17362@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#17362: 24.4.50; inconsistent key notation: `ESC' vs `<ESC>'
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:55:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANdFEAHRYLHqgSVNNgWQoDM-m506mFB_hWd0aBF2jucGrncC2A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8361lsm3b6.fsf@gnu.org>

On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:27:03 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> > Cc: dmoncayo@gmail.com, 17362-done@debbugs.gnu.org
> >
> > > > Eli, are you saying that you have replaced <delete>, <backspace>, etc.
> > > > everywhere with <DELETE>, <BACKSPACE>, etc., or that you think it is
> > > > appropriate to do so?
> > >
> > > Only for BACKSPACE (and, of course, only in the manual).  It's still
> > > "Delete" (because that's the label on the key).  ESC and TAB and SPC
> > > and RET were always in caps, so they stay in caps.
> >
> > <Delete> is not how Emacs refers to the key in help.  And neither is
> > <BACKSPACE>.  Emacs help calls these <delete> and <backspace>, AFAICT.
>
> I'm not talking about help, I'm only talking about the manual.  The
> bug report was about inconsistencies in the manual.  At least that's
> how I perceived it, and that's the only issue I set out to fix.

Sorry to be mentioning this after you committed your changes, but I
wanted to comment about the impact of these changes on new users.
Difficulty specifying key bindings correctly is fairly common among
newer users, and I think that this difficulty is worsened by
occurrences in the documentation of non-canonical (with respect to
kbd arguments) key notation.  There's an EmacsWiki page[0] about key
binding notation that reads in part, "Use C-h k to find out how Emacs
describes the key sequence, and copy & paste that into your kbd
string."  It would be good if the info manual used the same notation.

http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki?KeyBindingNotation

Josh





  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-29 21:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <<CAH8Pv0i8RqY8JpPEurRycUwRp_C1_UZ5NN5MXwW3uQ74kYeQDQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <<83fvkxo4kc.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-04-28 15:39     ` bug#17362: 24.4.50; inconsistent key notation: `ESC' vs `<ESC>' Drew Adams
2014-04-28 16:15       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]   ` <<b73bc016-5fd5-4af5-879c-18c14a989a14@default>
     [not found]     ` <<83fvkwmagn.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-04-29 15:40       ` Drew Adams
2014-04-29 16:19         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]       ` <<4294927c-08b3-4c65-83e4-1582e8d0d859@default>
     [not found]         ` <<838uqom7lm.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-04-29 17:27           ` Drew Adams
2014-04-29 17:51             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-29 21:55               ` Josh [this message]
2014-04-29 23:00                 ` Drew Adams
2014-04-30  2:55                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]           ` <<f2425601-bc55-4f33-ba22-5a2045fdf78a@default>
     [not found]             ` <<8361lsm3b6.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-04-29 18:12               ` Drew Adams
2014-04-29 18:34                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <<d035db75-bf2f-4a7e-bca3-684f76f17742@default>
     [not found] ` <<8338gwlz7v.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-04-29 19:38   ` Drew Adams
2014-04-30  2:51     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <<c30f764a-5327-47f4-8bf6-ef6ad993518d@default>
     [not found] ` <<834n1cm1bx.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-04-29 19:09   ` Drew Adams
2014-04-29 19:20     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-29 19:24       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <<e9c40932-a5e6-4e19-ac69-5b656438a555@default>
     [not found] ` <<83bnvlo2fh.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-04-28 16:20   ` Drew Adams
2014-04-28 14:29 Drew Adams
2014-04-28 14:49 ` Dani Moncayo
2014-04-28 15:25   ` Drew Adams
2014-04-29 15:17     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-28 15:29   ` Eli Zaretskii

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