From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Josh Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rectangular regions Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 11:20:34 -0700 Message-ID: References: <52707D17.6010801@dancol.org> <8338niefba.fsf@gnu.org> <87a9hq8h7p.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <838ux8d05z.fsf@gnu.org> <83d2mjc49i.fsf@gnu.org> <83a9hnc2qv.fsf@gnu.org> <527408C4.9090503@dancol.org> <838ux7c1qt.fsf@gnu.org> <834n7vb85r.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1383416668 8662 80.91.229.3 (2 Nov 2013 18:24:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 18:24:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Daniel Colascione , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 02 19:24:32 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vcfoy-0002PE-ML for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 19:21:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42839 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vcfoy-0001wh-5R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 14:21:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44841) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vcfor-0001wP-PW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 14:21:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vcfon-0003wW-Oy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 14:21:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-f180.google.com ([209.85.212.180]:46624) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vcfon-0003wO-Iy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 14:21:05 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wi0-f180.google.com with SMTP id ey11so2282518wid.13 for ; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 11:21:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=oApVFeWdiUVw//roQLYwNDeY32e77iuJfG7D04GnNNs=; b=Auz+I3X5FuYe2fDqXPKPDwoxYWh/sGSJDohT2QB4ptWVmkfGGg+nUZSt4VcXBoJuQz yMkPoDHKWIO84CwcUS1WftZnkBmdFJ6P2sXb3wIHFOCQPMGnhz70zuD3h5Un5bY2FMR3 GPm9NyG8vghUV1CDgzJnuO/CBG4SyKDQvfh7le6mmZMvrdUs7dg9Y3PgFzjcdLp4tlqR Nw2OUX2UE7elIckdXdSLWQ8imyyFeC7SoqJctZJbpfVC2ZoZKA4zgdYn5ZlhkDaNSMj+ V3KjuRKV1y7GP2SumohYWgDyz8WREsxL4La/Hv0/F1OMNDZoDQRT8AWSTvXGkCJk6Cjx QNbQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnuehtNQSBN3fHhnEAIfOcsgyhhrKrP64mnRx/lgb5lKUgHFe8Sv/EEJwVehEux2C+IRBth X-Received: by 10.180.39.140 with SMTP id p12mr6513406wik.12.1383416464632; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 11:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.194.22.225 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 11:20:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <834n7vb85r.fsf@gnu.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: wQpt-Pb6qyImbgrBWaXuq-b1cqs X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.212.180 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:164876 Archived-At: On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Josh >> Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 16:35:05 -0700 >> Cc: Daniel Colascione , >> Stefan Monnier , >> emacs-devel >> >> I also use rectangle commands in programming modes from time to >> time, and not in comments. For example, I can often perform >> simultaneous edits to common substrings of columnar data such as >> enum elements far more efficiently with a rectangle command than I >> could using a keyboard macro or replace-regexp. > > The important questions: are these uses more frequent than using GUD > on the same sources? As I never use GUD at all, yes. None of my Emacs-using coworkers do either, FWIW. I'd be surprised if a large proportion of typical Emacs users (i.e. not those who frequent emacs-devel) used GUD; do you have reason to believe that is the case? >> I also use rectangle commands quite often when when transforming >> extracts from log files into a form suitable for programmatic use. > > In this case, the rectangular mark is not set in a buffer where the > major mode supports some programming language. So I don't think these > cases count for the discussion at hand. Your premise is incorrect. I insert raw log extracts into C or Verilog mode buffers from the system clipboard or via insert-file and perform the edits there using rectangle commands.