From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Josh Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add option to ERC to make all connections use SSL. Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 09:14:29 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87zjfqiokt.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87mwbnu6kf.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3062819138d04fff8467b X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1407342005 13242 80.91.229.3 (6 Aug 2014 16:20:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 16:20:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel To: John Zorn , Vibhav Pant Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 06 18:19:59 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XF3wR-0005Ii-49 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 18:19:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39986 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XF3wQ-0005DK-MB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 12:19:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55692) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XF3rn-00066s-Ep for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 12:15:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XF3rg-0006Ik-SO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 12:15:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-oa0-f53.google.com ([209.85.219.53]:49727) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XF3rg-0006IW-Na for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 12:15:00 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-oa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id j17so1941656oag.26 for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 09:14:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=HO9q1ij/1RryNm9JR7urVku9G1mZ3oyBJ0FsV8TNrWw=; b=Ni+o7JL6WvXEnVDkyrE8FRiselCtt0BQ1Yt7frH2GK9OPfukhbyh++6KmUzbZZ2jdt JotVkKp1pS0bfZ3kLWr9+pvjcuPaDs41d+kYBKVls9AvLLhI/n1Zu5CliN9lvWNbX9yR 5YL0FvUiim2YZ6tpykEvOqqad94vAv4VhvBqPmtJ3J9KnQSzRKw1qfYLgqOly0mnC/Me kqSVd097pL9AJVVpmWhmTX58P6/EZMchlVPrDnB7t1LsVPH17AqwcI4W9ModHwcNaZ3J 90kD6bO7XwwS30AVjttlAGvy636UlcmwA6/959/dKeNSihWB3/83MfjzSOm52q6En5nN rqxA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmCuTsKvny2M+fxGvXccFr8w7LutVlH4dFkt2jVBfZgNj0amnAQY930xWdQpMEClITqhRZZ X-Received: by 10.60.51.9 with SMTP id g9mr16439946oeo.63.1407341699857; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 09:14:59 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.202.74.84 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 09:14:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Google-Sender-Auth: BHF9X1wxN_-DmmqP3fbjxY1u674 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.219.53 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:173451 Archived-At: --001a11c3062819138d04fff8467b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 7:39 AM, John Zorn wrote: > All this extra code and complexity, for what exactly? > You said it yourself, `erc-tls' is already there, > it's even interactive! > > If you think it's not "prominent enough", one can certainly > make it more prominent instead of producing the tangled > mess that is your patch. Similar situations have > led to ERC being bloated and messy as hell. > > John What a bizarrely hostile and unproductive post. Vibhav, technical issues aside, thanks for your efforts to improve ERC; it could definitely use some more attention. I'd recommend disregarding that outburst entirely; it looks to have been written by someone who has never contributed to Emacs in any way or was trolling with a throw-away identity or both. jlf --001a11c3062819138d04fff8467b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 7:39 AM, John Zorn <jzornn@gmail.com> wr= ote:
> All this extra code and complexity, for what exactly?
> You said it yourself, `erc-tls' is already there,=
> it's even interactive!
>=C2=A0
> If you think it's not &= quot;prominent enough", one can certainly
> make it more prominent instead of producing the tangled
> mess that is your patch. Similar situations have
> led to ERC being bloated and messy as hell.
>=C2=A0
> John
=

What a bizarrely hostile and unproduct= ive post. =C2=A0

Vibhav, technical issues aside, thanks for your efforts to improve
ERC; it could definitely use some more attention. = =C2=A0I'd recommend
disregarding that o= utburst entirely; it looks to have been written
by someone who has never contributed to Emacs in= any way or
was trolling with a throw-away = identity or both.

jlf

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