From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Josh Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs completion matches selection UI Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 07:57:35 -0800 Message-ID: References: <87fvqtg02v.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <877gc5fm30.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87k3g47m7b.fsf@yandex.ru> <528B6F11.7070607@yandex.ru> <87y54ke8v3.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87li0kdrsz.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384963100 25829 80.91.229.3 (20 Nov 2013 15:58:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 15:58:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 20 16:58:25 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VjAAW-0004l1-9h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 16:58:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55336 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjAAV-00072J-Vv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:58:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37349) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjAAO-00070W-63 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:58:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjAAJ-0002JE-70 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:58:12 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-f179.google.com ([209.85.212.179]:60983) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjAAJ-0002J1-0n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:58:07 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wi0-f179.google.com with SMTP id fb10so7297213wid.0 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 07:58:06 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=ipypWXiD56VUrQTbdKDWHtt5a4iLU8VbtsPXTe3wTiw=; b=icaecMTl8qC1dZNYiAPblfs5VMnF/DvG3QflWwvBC75gvxtB2x0Fmv1OC2X5+iP+wk ZlJ5cQLwKX+PUNLIUiY9ypPO5imAnWF8A0SPyueA9rNaJ+I0znXbX+Sq3Dyvve8NlEUa VUt75WGUGicbRKI03vhzKOa8/fHmRARhczMrEu7snmhV6ofA03vlDrdiyyblxrk6MW7b Dk2vQXoaR/xIKQvWn702jifI0ScsEUAHN/ZTC2u45itjLMxZfpy6JYdJD02F1bIorxCK qc5pAMLhjyrd0ME+dqwXdXEmUKkxprvs3PLeMR6iGw+HX8H/AehsOpvWYW6IbWL5aamG VMEw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkyPSw40YcGnp+qbr8Xqg6gzFT6H/GO9JIwhLNsugIH+nsZ0vj+OgslxkC5x1FobqVaT+Wr X-Received: by 10.194.201.225 with SMTP id kd1mr1268003wjc.35.1384963086103; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 07:58:06 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.194.24.7 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 07:57:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5h4zoj7_X7hw9i-tPgwtH2BRrSw X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.212.179 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165439 Archived-At: On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> - decide on "locking in" users during candidate selection (so more >> natural keybindings can be used) or stealing just a few keybindings >> temporarily > > "just a few" can be many keybindings. My preference is simply to let > the user exit that mode "seamlessly" without having to use a special > exit key-binding. But that doesn't mean that we should feel restricted > in which keys can be used in that special mode. Many people access `previous-history-element' in the minibuffer through the up arrow, so I hope it is not commandeered for this purpose. Instead, what about entering the mode from the minibuffer via C-f and right arrow, but only when the point is at the minibuffer's point-max (i.e. when `forward-char' would currently complain "End of buffer")? Besides being less disruptive for users than changing the behavior of , using C-f/ for this purpose has the mnemonic benefit of suggesting "go beyond what I've typed". WDYT?