From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Josh Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17702: 24.3; insert-char no longer inserts "bell" control character Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 15:38:52 -0700 Message-ID: References: <21392.31505.332595.525782@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <83oay75qhu.fsf@gnu.org> <21392.38411.953699.311610@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <83a99r5k9l.fsf@gnu.org> <21392.57466.295650.170830@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11334460940c5a04fb1e6abe X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1402008024 27603 80.91.229.3 (5 Jun 2014 22:40:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 22:40:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 17702@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ulrich Mueller Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 06 00:40:17 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WsgKV-0002Jw-9K for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Thu, 05 Jun 2014 15:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.202.78.205 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 15:38:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <21392.57466.295650.170830@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6p_U-s5B2gbzRbombXhlRqjhKvs X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:90091 Archived-At: --001a11334460940c5a04fb1e6abe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > I've browsed around and found > http://www.unicode.org/Public/6.3.0/ucd/NameAliases.txt which says: > > # Note that no formal name alias for the ISO 6429 "BELL" is > # provided for U+0007, because of the existing name collision > # with U+1F514 BELL. > > So it seems that they are aware of the problem already. The passage you quoted suggests a possible enhancement to insert-char, namely adding support for ISO 6429 names in addition to Unicode names, using suffixes something like "BELL (Unicode)" and "BELL (ISO 6429)" to disambiguate. > >>>>> On Thu, 5 Jun 2014, Josh wrote: > > > Is there a reason you can't use `C-q C-g' to insert this character? > > Sure, it's not unusual that a task can be performed in Emacs in > several different ways. Is this an excuse for one of them being > imperfect? Certainly not, but I thought it possible that you hadn't considered that approach and might be interested in performing the task with 1/3 the keystrokes :) --001a11334460940c5a04fb1e6abe Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Ulrich Mueller <<= a href=3D"mailto:ulm@gentoo.org">ulm@gentoo.org> wrote:
> I've browsed around and found
>= http:/= /www.unicode.org/Public/6.3.0/ucd/NameAliases.txt which says:
>=C2=A0
> # Note that no formal name = alias for the ISO 6429 "BELL" is
= > # provided for U+0007, because of the existing name collision
> # with U+1F514 BELL.
>=C2=A0
<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">> So it seems that they are aware of the probl= em already.

The passage you quoted suggests a possible enhancement to insert-char= ,
namely adding support for ISO 6429 names in addi= tion to Unicode names,
using suffixes somet= hing like "BELL (Unicode)" and "BELL (ISO 6429)" to=C2= =A0
disambiguate.
> >>>>> On Thu, 5 Jun = 2014, Josh =C2=A0wrote:
>=C2=A0
> > Is there a reason you can't use `C-q C-g' to insert this = character?
>=C2=A0
> Sure, it's not unusual that a task can be performed in = Emacs in
> several different ways. Is this an excuse f= or one of them being
> imperfect?
<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">
Certainly no= t, but I thought it possible that you hadn't considered
that approach and might be interested in perform= ing the task with
1/3 the keystrokes :)

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