From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as word processor Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 23:03:51 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5288A59E.7030109@dancol.org> <87vbzqfgd6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87mwl04w3k.fsf@zigzag.favinet> <87iovo4caz.fsf@zigzag.favinet> <877gc14vzs.fsf@zigzag.favinet> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bfcfc8277c57004ebb71438 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385071472 14591 80.91.229.3 (21 Nov 2013 22:04:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 22:04:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Thien-Thi Nguyen , Emacs-Devel devel To: "Richard M. Stallman" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 21 23:04:37 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VjcMX-00086q-BA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 23:04:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35496 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjcMW-0002aF-QM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:04:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:32775) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjcMO-0002Vw-Hx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:04:29 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjcMN-0000QA-Ac for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:04:28 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x230.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::230]:51871) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjcMJ-0000Om-MN; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:04:23 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wi0-f176.google.com with SMTP id hq4so309968wib.9 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 14:04:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=gk30J3Vr7hiSsBW5/meK4mPhGMbq6T40qJgUVpDKzfo=; b=ztVzJ7xp2h+5bwAM5pe0ojJzKQWQd8s+JdejndQNR0xDLX0HsV1G+sseADE6HRtBvH vcMfiIomf59H1LeNw4ct3Wtj4v05Od8kGaXHvKoVMiEJ6Kw9XgQVifvQ1TnuQKEDGYkY HDNxZkPF7QKxl1lvub5qztNLFBdJbqaKLKj/OzZ4dwWnczu3Dgzu+FC1hVsBjudQSjs9 U3RvXCkzpekKAs3PpdfoGp3+p3o527fqHf+LFgGP8Y+GA+CpRSFbIWq6p0gFCWnYUvZQ Df6lZaW5dO0/qln5CiQCQnyKG0QmmPXuvQe8eRR14ei1JcivYd6a3DGXCLES61RU7BBJ dQbQ== X-Received: by 10.194.78.141 with SMTP id b13mr7464356wjx.32.1385071461776; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 14:04:21 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.194.216.227 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 14:03:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165508 Archived-At: --047d7bfcfc8277c57004ebb71438 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > [ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider > [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, > [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. > > I wish I could specify fonts in Emacs in a way that would > really be useful in making such a document. > > Are you referring to customize-face or something else (such > as, e.g., .Xresources/XLFD/XFT processing)? > > I mean a simple way to put some text in a different font, such as a > 14-point bold font for a title, and have it (1) display on the screen > in that font and (2) have that markup saved in the file. > > Emacs can already display a piece of text in that font, but it lacks a > convenient user-level feature to do this whole job. > Maybe it is worth mentioning here (to avoid confusion) that the convenient user-level feature would be using "styles" as it is normally called in word processords (not direct formatting - which is a kludge you use sometimes when you are short of time, or have not learned to use a word processor yet... ;-) ) --047d7bfcfc8277c57004ebb71438 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On T= hu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 [ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 [ whether defending the US Constitution against= all enemies,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow S= nowden's example.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I wish I could specify f= onts in Emacs in a way that would
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0really be useful in making such a document.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Are you referring to =C2=A0customize-face =C2=A0or something = else (such
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 as, e.g., .Xresources/XLFD/XFT processing)?

I mean a simple way to put some text in a different font, such as a 14-point bold font for a title, and have it (1) display on the screen
in that font and (2) have that markup saved in the file.

Emacs can already display a piece of text in that font, but it lacks a
convenient user-level feature to do this whole job.

=
Maybe it is worth mentioning here (to avoi= d confusion) that the convenient user-level feature would be using "st= yles" as it is normally called in word processords (not direct formatt= ing - which is a kludge you use sometimes when you are short of time, or ha= ve not learned to use a word processor yet... ;-) )
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