It is definitively a bug in my opinion. On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:56 AM, Andrew Hyatt wrote: > Andrew Hyatt writes: > > > Lennart Borgman writes: > > > >> If viper-mode is on and you for example in org-mode are in on a header > >> line with an invisible body and press “o” then the invisible text is > >> still invisible and point is now in the invisible part. > >> > >> I think this is a general Emacs problem, not a problem with only Viper > >> and I suggest that global-reveal-mode is turned on by default. > > > > Sorry for the late reply. This is still a problem in Emacs 25. > > > > I don't know if I agree that this is a problem, though. The behavior I > > see with Viper (or Evil, for that matter) is confusing but not crazy. I > > still see that I'm inserting something before the invisible part > > (represented by "..."), and when I expand the outline, then my edit > > indeed put the text before that invisible part. > > > > Turning on global-reveal-mode by default would change the org experience > > and as well, so I'm unsure that is something others would agree on. > > No one has yet disagreed with me, so I'm going to mark this one as a > wishlist - I think there is something that either Org or Viper could do > to work better with each other, but this is more of a feature request > than a bug IMHO. >