From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Have you all gone crazy? Was: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 02:52:04 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <6e11cd85-09a0-4b7a-baa2-0c810bdebbce@default> <871tnsg0w7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k31ki3tc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <21657.38692.813089.642641@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0j4tqo.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87y4puad75.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419731589 8112 80.91.229.3 (28 Dec 2014 01:53:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 01:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-Devel devel , "Richard M. Stallman" , Drew Adams , Tom To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 28 02:53:02 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y532T-0007j0-J4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 02:53:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57402 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y532S-0006RY-Tw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 20:53:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53721) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y532G-0006RG-6F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 20:52:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y532F-0002JI-7I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 20:52:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x22d.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d]:56601) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y532D-0002Ey-Lx; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 20:52:45 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wi0-f173.google.com with SMTP id r20so19376742wiv.12; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 17:52:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=RM3wk2FZv2YfmRAomo8uM6SPwD2In+lXWtOXAP2nHh0=; b=xPt7DppjWv9MoYrXcCd4wfk0LYa0rncMYUBsDlritok6BDqJBs+slQOVB2BmK5R/5c D4qa+3CdmQwGRivixJMb5bABwhPGrxNXfA0KOOxn7yKLCSbEstNuVolk8P7XCEh26kq9 oery73eA+l6eRCe0+KWUcVHfId1ZbXp5BAjpVRxXv+F5lxTr6b3eZB8i1GWlHF8l5b5S VAElcBf5ipMoPirtTmVYIIM/NB3lCT8Z+zoZnDsJrtgCRFcBmnuSYnlXoTnLrAf+qYRi utkZezQl28Dmama0gbsXxtT6HFkuqKKqG5adqy/2YgGX3MMp4ePMNAHEFF03+fOp9EB8 Tn+w== X-Received: by 10.180.20.106 with SMTP id m10mr82764432wie.1.1419731564909; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 17:52:44 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.194.93.228 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 17:52:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180735 Archived-At: On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:07 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> It is unclear what you object to. Is it: >> 1) Using a service like Google etc to find documentation. >> 2) Using internet as a communication channel to a (search) server set >> up and controlled by FSF to find documentation? > > Controlled by the FSF is of no help. Controlled by a user-setup server > would be acceptable from a Freedom point of view, but to me the main > issue is that it should work when disconnected. If that is the main issue then you can have a local copy of a search server on your computer. Just half a GB. ;-) Some years ago that would have been ridiculous. Today it is not a big problem for many any user with a good internet connection. Though you can probably use Apache Lucy to get a much smaller footprint.