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From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Lawrence Mitchell <wence@gmx.li>
Subject: Re: Finding a variable before it's loaded
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:29:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANbX366ghzwvyiks8EHQE0qEBT8TKEtOgejBa=DOOsHUDUV8Gg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvvcmxp728.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 22:48, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>>> The docstring of comment-style refers the user to comment-styles for
>>> details on what the values mean.  However, this is not available until
>>> after newcomment.el is loaded.  So autoload comment-styles to avoid
>>> this problem.
>> Then this is an instance of a general problem. See eg
>> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=1768
>> for the same thing.
>> IMO there should be a general solution rather than papering over every
>> instance that occurs with more pre/autoloading.
>
> Yes, there is a general problem underneath, but it's difficult to
> solve satisfactorily.  IIRC someone did submit a potential solution at
> some point, but it required building a fairly large file listing where
> each var is defined.

I did that. Though I did not have time to finish it in the end.
However the timing was not a big problem. The table size was perhaps a
problem.

> I have toyed with a slightly different approach which tries to reduce
> the size of this file by keeping not the list of all vars, but only
> a list of prefixes used by each file.

Sounds like a better solution.

> This way, if I want to find `comment-styles', I can simply load all the files
> that define variables with the "comment-" prefix.

Could not that be problematic? Maybe the build process could warn if a
prefix is found in the wrong file?



      reply	other threads:[~2012-02-23 22:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-22 17:17 bug#10868: 24.0.93; `comment-style' needs to be explained Drew Adams
2012-02-22 17:38 ` Glenn Morris
2012-02-22 18:06   ` Drew Adams
2012-02-22 18:11     ` Glenn Morris
2012-02-22 19:01       ` Drew Adams
2012-02-23  9:22         ` Lawrence Mitchell
2012-02-23 14:31           ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-23 15:35             ` Drew Adams
2012-02-23 16:04               ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-23 16:13                 ` Drew Adams
2012-02-25  3:08             ` Chong Yidong
2012-02-23 17:16           ` Glenn Morris
2012-02-23 17:22             ` Glenn Morris
2012-02-23 17:24             ` Lawrence Mitchell
2012-02-23 17:34             ` Drew Adams
2012-02-23 21:48             ` Finding a variable before it's loaded Stefan Monnier
2012-02-23 22:29               ` Lennart Borgman [this message]

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