From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CL package serious deficiencies Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:08:41 +0100 Message-ID: References: <33271707.post@talk.nabble.com> <87fwemcwlx.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> <87zkcubbfc.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1328648956 24947 80.91.229.3 (7 Feb 2012 21:09:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 21:09:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: egnarts-ms , Stefan Monnier , Drew Adams , Emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Nix Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 07 22:09:15 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RusHq-0005nv-Mz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:09:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36488 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RusHq-0008Fr-3G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:09:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:55558) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RusHk-0008FZ-AS for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:09:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RusHe-0004cA-Fg for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:09:08 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com ([209.85.215.41]:50219) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RusHe-0004c5-6o for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:09:02 -0500 Original-Received: by lamf4 with SMTP id f4so5393247lam.0 for ; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 13:09:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=EzlGWwOng5rnOaPop+3wMwfw5Ha9CMGANNn8kw7SOD4=; b=HyHg1hx3djd/dkxG5jpKyOoYIvK9/2XuM9Jopgcyr6ExnYi2DGbTZKkUiiXoKwFP9l 2OrNh6Z7SCZolXOgsHY4G6dNYI7lIradp4wiSOtMEn/Gfc5R3m4px5O5viGpdZyOXp9N nS149NuRStT8lby4gbDOaiM2HH80rTFmeCDIs= Original-Received: by 10.152.112.104 with SMTP id ip8mr13733049lab.15.1328648941107; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 13:09:01 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.112.12.6 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Feb 2012 13:08:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87zkcubbfc.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.215.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:148316 Archived-At: On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 22:06, Nix wrote: > On 7 Feb 2012, Lennart Borgman verbalised: > >> There are things that do not work if you include cl.el at run time. >> You may not notice the problems and tracking it down has been quite >> difficult some times. > > If so, these are either bugs in cl.el, or bugs in the conflicting > packages, and should surely be fixed, rather than simply trying to avoid > using cl. Fixing the bugs would be better yes. Anyone interested can do that. But no one has said that cl.el should not be used. I have not seen any problems when the instructions for its use are followed.