From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:44:31 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <54823617.4000406@cs.ucla.edu> <83k325195l.fsf@gnu.org> <5482D94B.2070102@cs.ucla.edu> <5484FF31.5010808@cs.ucla.edu> <5485FC59.5030700@cs.ucla.edu> <87388p6glt.fsf@engster.org> <871to9lw6g.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <5486A704.6090305@cs.ucla.edu> <87k321jj4e.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54876F7F.9000607@cs.ucla.edu> <87y4qfj2u9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54889A57.5060905@cs.ucla.edu> <87vbljb9f4.fsf@wanadoo.es> <54889F6D.6060408@cs.ucla.edu> <87r3w7b83a.fsf@wanadoo.es> <5488C710.3000209@cs.ucla.edu> <871to7ayv9.fsf@wanadoo.es> <5488DC0C.2070402@cs.ucla.edu> <87d27qin2j.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418298327 9271 80.91.229.3 (11 Dec 2014 11:45:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 11:45:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-Devel devel To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 11 12:45:20 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xz2BM-0003KA-O8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:45:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50392 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xz2BM-0007tq-Cv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 06:45:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36362) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xz2BI-0007tl-UJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 06:45:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xz2BH-0003Ed-Tb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 06:45:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x235.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::235]:52871) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xz2BG-0003CC-7w; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 06:45:14 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id r20so8327656wiv.8 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 03:45:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NNN47crPFlEse2nVSND+4HQvrglbNHsVGlw3h9JIvNU=; b=zJn6aL82ifB+Yt/7SDzkYJxNHOwSrNlNZk2Rnhx30jTOclrGp8CvqsKYOqKhkR9CNx XrK0sUkrlMDLVZFDS4vcZjVZlemJP770HVUvBeTJHmd0D0s2Ko6zeCPtxkO9t3Eq9E4k G/OXxphKWtuQ9tBK7FjGC08jCEoGq0XDVbBQCyQxv269U2dpwz3464SEnWdto2h9SfGY WVj4KGTaQCRvENPQK3jJ6iVEsGNAb13lwFzwNLdmGVIKHUoRXRA4Q25c2FWzB2jvfBvJ 93BA9+pG8U42JNXKpVErv+FhByBtO+cGNSFkcZaM+6D337jKjY1CU6hbdFAIfNiMNrdz yfAg== X-Received: by 10.194.52.37 with SMTP id q5mr15652783wjo.39.1418298312920; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 03:45:12 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.194.93.228 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 03:44:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87d27qin2j.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::235 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179733 Archived-At: On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:54 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > Paul Eggert writes: > >> =C3=93scar Fuentes wrote: >> >>> Some formats (like Org) are "final", in the sense that the source text >>> (the equivalent of *.texi) is intended for consumption (it is the *.inf= o >>> too, although not as pretty as some of its other representations such a= s >>> HTML.) Failures on the structure are visible, links can be checked righ= t >>> away, etc. >> >> This is an advantage of Org mode over Texinfo. > > It's also a disadvantage since it means that one simple text-based > output format has to contain the full information relevant for all other > output formats. Which causes visual clutter not relevant for the > text-based output format. But for HTML you add style sheets. So it is not really true that the org format has to contain all the information.