From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
Cc: Emacs-Devel devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Why bring new features to Emacs and not Emacs to new applications?
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 22:20:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANbX365zc04UzHGNcoLTdHw71E95Vw77V_2AL0RSLfiohqwLtg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8761rhv7kc.fsf@informatimago.com>
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Pascal J. Bourguignon
<pjb@informatimago.com> wrote:
>
> For example, if an application is written in C++ (often the case
> nowadays), and use templates (also often the case if they use C++), then
> you already have a major stumbling block, in interfacing Lisp with C++
> thru a FFI: Lisp has a dynamic nature where the objects are created at
> run-time, while C++ templates are instanciated at compilation time. If
I do not unserstand much on this level, but is not OLE etc designed to
address these difficulties. (But see below.)
> - lisp hostile data structures,
>
> Lisp use a garbage collector and typed objects, while other
> programming languages often use instead manual memory management and
> typed variables. Keeping both structures consistent in parallel would
> be a lot work.
I guess that is a work that must be done if plugin (or similar
interfaces) should be created. But the main problem is perhaps doing
that efficiently. And in the background, of course.
> - incompatible control structure.
>
> While most applications will have like emacs a main event loop, it is
> not designed usually to go thru (dynamically modifiable) keymaps to
> handle in a uniform way the events, but would rather rely on
> frameworks, which may implement their own modal control loops.
Isn't this an area where Emacs must change?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-24 21:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-24 18:38 Why bring new features to Emacs and not Emacs to new applications? (was: Emacs as word processor) Torsten Wagner
2013-11-24 21:00 ` Why bring new features to Emacs and not Emacs to new applications? Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-11-24 21:20 ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2013-11-24 23:37 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-11-25 1:20 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-11-25 20:12 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-11-25 21:14 ` Lennart Borgman
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