From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6414: f->output_data.w32->menubar_widget uninitialized? Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 04:18:34 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309746025 11749 80.91.229.12 (4 Jul 2011 02:20:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 02:20:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 6414@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 04 04:20:21 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdYlo-0000Lj-VW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 04:20:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59625 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QdYlo-0005ct-8S for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:20:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44449) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QdYlY-0005bG-WB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:20:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QdYlX-0005jK-Qi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:20:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:37679) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QdYlX-0005jG-Ml for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:20:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdYlW-0004Jf-Ls; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:20:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 02:20:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6414 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,w32 X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6414-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6414.130974594216506 (code B ref 6414); Mon, 04 Jul 2011 02:20:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6414) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jul 2011 02:19:02 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdYkY-0004IB-2c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:19:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ey0-f172.google.com ([209.85.215.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdYkW-0004Hs-0s for 6414@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:19:00 -0400 Original-Received: by eye13 with SMTP id 13so1951549eye.3 for <6414@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 19:18:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=4oHtKVw+nnjpkiTNPUgZ+A9Pn5QAhXre/QBeHv+HnCk=; b=Uo7f4NwD+nQLR6YX79XdkuBeBWJxBeaM1lfhCLxdBZJU/zkjgds9dtKKmdCsuReiGL rj6musYGb5fNQNVKBTdIbw5iNGKz2k5iSIbyjAhvHHrkInQazU3tswrNDkzUKW2nKVoC O9ZpcMdf7oABx8xnnpkkZkteH1uaPHzMndSEo= Original-Received: by 10.213.114.66 with SMTP id d2mr1606952ebq.102.1309745934159; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 19:18:54 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.213.7.84 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 19:18:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:20:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:47910 Archived-At: On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 04:13, Juanma Barranquero wrote: > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 03:44, Lennart Borgman wrote: > >> Yes, it is extra complexity. But I think the extra complexity that is >> the result of not doing this error checking is much, much worse. There >> might be very serious troubles and you have no idea what it is. > > If there are "serious troubles" and nobody ever notices them, then > they are not "serious troubles". We're talking about Emacs, not real > time avionics or nuclear plant control software. There is serious trouble in this area. And if we are going to expand the frame handling (for inline completion etc) then I think it will be very good to have checks in all places. However do as you want. I do not want to spent too much time on these discussions. I think I have told my reasons for the checks. >> Could you please check the MS doc and see if these calls should be >> switched? > > No. You're the one who's spent time looking at the menu code. You're > the one who should know whether that is really a bug and propose a > patch. OK. And what will happen when I have done that? (Which I have already done.)