On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen@xemacs.org>wrote:

> Lennart Borgman writes:
>  > On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Eric S. Raymond <esr@thyrsus.com>
> wrote:
>   > It is very different in one way. An editor is a tool you start
>  > with.
>
> That's not what Eric's talking about.  The point he is making, it
> seems to me, is that Emacs is not an editor, it is a text editing
> environment or toolkit.  Similarly, git is not a VCS, it is an
> environment for developing a VCS.  Not to the same extent that today's
> Emacs is a development environment for editors, but then Richard had
> several years of experience with using a editor language to create the
> Emacs Lisp and GNU Emacs that is the direct ancestor of today's Emacs.
>


When you start with Emacs it is just an editor, nothing more.