On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:02 AM, David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote:

> Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> >
> >> > Emacs is never going to be as easy to learn as simple
> >> > editors, because ease of learning is not its priority.
> >
> > There could be a setup of Emacs that is as easy as any editor to
> > learn.
>
> That's a red herring.  What people are looking for are not editors that
> are easy to learn, but editors that can be used without learning
> anything at all.
>

Do you believe you will convince me with this, or? ;-)
Facts are much better if we do not agree. If we agreed this might have been
better, more fun, of course... ;-)


>
>
 > I guess that we are really discussing is if there is an advantage of
> > such a setup. In the light of that there was a whole new editor
> > (gedit) created I think there could have been a better route. Emacs
> > could probably have provided everything that gedit gives.
> >
> > I also guess it would have been less work. And there would have been a
> > larger community using and working on Emacs.
>
> The future of Emacs depends on people with an attention span and
> perseverence sufficient for extending it.  Those are the people who are
> most likely to be annoyed at the inconsistency of concepts and
> operations of things like the full CUA mode (the one which uses
> heuristics to decide whether to use C-x and C-c in the Emacs or the CUA
> sense).
>
> Are you really sure you want to look down upon those that do not agree? ;-)