From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10153: 24.0.91; behavior of TAB in text modes is different Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 21:15:23 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87d3ccr7f5.fsf@gnu.org> <87ty5n0xgo.fsf@gnu.org> <2AB87B84E3C84938A49039098CACAD95@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1322597779 26275 80.91.229.12 (29 Nov 2011 20:16:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 20:16:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , 10153@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 29 21:16:14 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RVU68-0006Ih-Qh for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 21:16:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59114 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RVU68-0004E4-3n for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:16:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:56906) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RVU63-0004AY-Bh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:16:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RVU5x-00016O-Cu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:16:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44556) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RVU5x-00016C-BI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:16:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RVU7t-0008RZ-VQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:18:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 20:18:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10153 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 10153-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10153.132259787032439 (code B ref 10153); Tue, 29 Nov 2011 20:18:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 10153) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Nov 2011 20:17:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RVU7h-0008RA-L7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:17:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f44.google.com ([209.85.215.44]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RVU7e-0008R2-QU for 10153@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:17:47 -0500 Original-Received: by lahj13 with SMTP id j13so1114042lah.3 for <10153@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:15:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=F7zkLMOl5Qbs82kxikyvpawGK3iX4F3OWWTmV8/EADY=; b=tmTg4WH4N/vprKhXUYE+a+RgB7xe5C5pcPQrWb8MaWJ0aLmUYpSWqbF3Kqm8WF/2bh fwGhKLUt4kQ1b1d8c/0dT9P46XGRlFzfoJohdqbOi3BB3nPdHg8OkzMv1a2xX0WZ4s8R Fbgx3JS2poxJZS2+6q0j7NDx2wXJSuZcJmzZs= Original-Received: by 10.152.110.102 with SMTP id hz6mr1908799lab.11.1322597744108; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:15:44 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.152.38.198 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:15:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2AB87B84E3C84938A49039098CACAD95@us.oracle.com> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:18:01 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:54438 Archived-At: On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 16:39, Drew Adams wrote: >> >> It appears that when the region is active, TAB in text >> >> mode now tries to indent to the previous line, i.e. it >> >> behaves like TAB in programming modes. =C2=A0Is this is a new >> >> intended feature? >> >> The new behavior seems to make more sense, so I guess I'll >> add a NEWS item and fix the indent-region doc. > > Personally, I don't use text mode that much, and I don't care, for my per= sonal > use. > > But my guess is that there will be many Emacs users who will be confused = by > this, expecting TAB to indent (if not to simply insert a TAB char). =C2= =A0Not because > that's what TAB did in the past in Emacs, but because that's more or less= the > behavior many newbies are used to, from other text editors. Are not most users now used to web browsers (where TAB move to next field) or programs like LibreOffice? In the latter TAB moves to next tab stop. Most users probably never use a simple text editor today. So I suggest TAB stop should indent.