From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as word processor Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:57:18 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87vbzqfgd6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83vbzkcx20.fsf@gnu.org> <83d2lrczi7.fsf@gnu.org> <8338mmcsd9.fsf@gnu.org> <83txf1blf2.fsf@gnu.org> <87txf133yd.fsf@zigzag.favinet> <83r4a5bj5x.fsf@gnu.org> <87mwktdy6r.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83iovhb0ez.fsf@gnu.org> <87k3fxdpmg.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <837gbwbcsx.fsf@gnu.org> <87d2lnevq7.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83y54bak6p.fsf@gnu.org> <878uwbej8i.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bb03c468d41c504ec175f73 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385485064 29909 80.91.229.3 (26 Nov 2013 16:57:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 16:57:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Eli Zaretskii , ttn@gnuvola.org, Emacs-Devel devel To: John Yates Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 26 17:57:50 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VlLxN-00028z-Ji for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:57:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59939 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlLxN-0006EW-9x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 11:57:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51419) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlLx3-0005t3-0i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 11:57:30 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlLx1-0005U7-QI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 11:57:28 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-we0-x232.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c03::232]:52056) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlLwt-0005RQ-EW; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 11:57:19 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-we0-f178.google.com with SMTP id u56so5697335wes.9 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 08:57:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=gFUcY5myDu21uW4hLOjvulDAR8aP7DsTCow+qCPHymU=; b=RSblLosAXjREHF4Erok0h2YkJ5zbc5OGNr30RIz0T+VWIXOWUA5tZg94fUuRtndUmE /S+9RvqZy/O/iUUY9mHL/V2sQ3KgpKCGJ8O3jn8aJ3NTWM/dd+jnZkpancJ/jQFzrRsZ VplzcWZZLbisiSXd63FwVAHJDgXemrakvX+SGCJp9RlluwbAw9mJJ5XvCy+WmqQCZzSP iNZPjq1heFGEzK7V7wAWZrN8wyL3uUjGQWYiYbVJcOLCzppg4F+VPaDe6eGteAMQIgIk 85w/gfjSGj4YlIlB6e3fWLyO8G25G5RC9wLCZO8yRB7xIBZl3NaTHgqhPEB7oUTYeB9C rHiQ== X-Received: by 10.194.94.167 with SMTP id dd7mr7693632wjb.43.1385485038336; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 08:57:18 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.194.216.227 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 08:57:18 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.194.216.227 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 08:57:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c03::232 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165767 Archived-At: --047d7bb03c468d41c504ec175f73 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Nov 26, 2013 4:34 PM, "John Yates" wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:05 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >> But having an >> additional level of indirection (which is being called "style" in this >> thread) is going to be very useful in organizing these things. > > > Another form of indirection would be to allow abstract mark-up. In the context of today's face model it would be nice to be able to mark a span with an abstract property or face (e.g. emphasis) without binding it immediately to concrete face attributes. Is no that what is done normally in XML documents? (Html/css, office, etc)? I think this belongs to the structure. --047d7bb03c468d41c504ec175f73 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Nov 26, 2013 4:34 PM, "John Yates" <john@yates-sheets.org> wrote:
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> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:05 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen@xemacs.org> wrote:
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>> But having an
>> additional level of indirection (which is being called "style= " in this
>> thread) is going to be very useful in organizing these things.
>
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> Another form of indirection would be to allow abstract mark-up. =C2=A0= In the context of today's face model it would be nice to be able to mar= k a span with an abstract property or face (e.g. emphasis) without binding = it immediately to concrete face attributes. =C2=A0

Is no that what is done normally in XML documents? (Html/css= , office, etc)? I think this belongs to the structure.

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