From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Have you all gone crazy? Was: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:43:28 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87k31mdbhe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0qiv45.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87h9wqimf0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87y4q1fekv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419183870 22957 80.91.229.3 (21 Dec 2014 17:44:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 17:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Kastrup , Richard Stallman , Phillip Lord , "Allen S. Rout" , Emacs-Devel devel , Stephen Turnbull To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 21 18:44:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2kYF-0000k1-6c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:44:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37922 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2kYE-0005V4-Cv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:44:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52471) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2kYB-0005Uv-0l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:44:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2kYA-00081J-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:44:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-x231.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::231]:63192) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2kY7-000804-Ht; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:44:11 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wg0-f49.google.com with SMTP id n12so5068390wgh.22; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 09:44:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=NSOdiiZI7nkgNNs+YTLVJ63mbDZzGXbkBsVZHxBC3PU=; b=O2xZjEVrivQLkcU5te99mKbJAZ97XWiKZHwx7I3qog/6JN1EOIb1KanTwbrifDCplx E1pUpPtmcf9EcYtNbz9qS+TqCQfuiw39RVgEusI7Qiv17p+6QsRAwOeRMGdt8ZWOXIYX 3LavEi+fkKq/p0YhYLfoHDBrtJ/s3A3ULcHjabVrUn4RkBnfdfG5VW6/eIPPkvQhiXRK ugKtyeUPqsXGAszECDQmiaKmiBAD+/inPlah/nFtvFE1WAUaXxyJFE5g3/6x7T4FyGKX TfrlJLsTb9NBg2+2PMknAO3eslMMvfN643qQTlQrBnn/jqDqPgVNrJzu/eOqMl+DJPHM 1roA== X-Received: by 10.180.98.162 with SMTP id ej2mr24338112wib.39.1419183850138; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 09:44:10 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.194.93.228 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 09:43:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c00::231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180433 Archived-At: On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Drew Adams wrote: >> >> It's a very long page, with text and images interspersed all the >> time. The downloading and rendering for the images takes a while, >> changing the browser's idea of the sizes all the time (maybe Texinfo >> should declare the geometry of images in the HTML if it doesn't >> already). Of course the size of the images should be declared in the HTML. Not doing that create a whole lot of extra work for the web browser since it otherwise has to recalculate the geometry all the time when a new image gets loaded.