From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "modern" doc viewer for info/html Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 14:30:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87wqarkbrw.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83wqarqthc.fsf@gnu.org> <87tx5vjo3j.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83r40zqmcp.fsf@gnu.org> <87iomb2q2b.fsf@gmx.us> <83oaw3qj3q.fsf@gnu.org> <87oaw3jgca.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87fvhfjcww.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53d57af9ae71704ffa4ac64 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1406982658 12530 80.91.229.3 (2 Aug 2014 12:30:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 12:30:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Rasmus , Emacs-Devel devel To: Nic Ferrier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 02 14:30:51 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XDYSY-00018r-GW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2014 14:30:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44069 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XDYSY-0005yu-1t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2014 08:30:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42961) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XDYSU-0005yd-8b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2014 08:30:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XDYST-0003sb-9p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2014 08:30:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-x22a.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::22a]:63877) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XDYSR-0003sL-G8; Sat, 02 Aug 2014 08:30:43 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id l18so5460152wgh.25 for ; Sat, 02 Aug 2014 05:30:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=UA4rpZe6EssjJO00zhc01QbciFPXw+TRVHhKndMYgtc=; b=cSNQVRJCsTIFoiCTk+DUogOB2ZOBLO0NiqDNu/1pSefTsEOtqw4jZGoscdtyKxVjLP K9T+RDZ40EzW4/By5dsbU31812svdDcCc2Hybo+KXuKq2ye97UGkWy2CP6dbDUK6kLhS OMywMaeCZetuwOtcLa1v1Sv0bNaMe8bZw9AN1M7CuBJhhbwdWyQPn7ZA5UbC0uH23Gbm fnSbu39fWvo/DQRbaZmwInQicsZYQRtwpMbdaNkfDL5JoZXYLo6d46fiLxB9Li1Ycdky sMpTBXX3M4fw4HP06pGO/725X1bs3SkXzcsnJ8ghQY8fNqokqzewKOwl0d3deFMsGde3 Pqxg== X-Received: by 10.180.20.40 with SMTP id k8mr16113835wie.54.1406982642392; Sat, 02 Aug 2014 05:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.194.9.232 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Aug 2014 05:30:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87fvhfjcww.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c00::22a X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:173384 Archived-At: --bcaec53d57af9ae71704ffa4ac64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Nic Ferrier wrote: > lennart.borgman@gmail.com writes: > > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Nic Ferrier > wrote: > > > >> Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> > >> >> There is some more info here: > >> >> > >> >> https://github.com/nicferrier/gnudoc-js/ > >> > > >> > Thanks, but I asked about features and functionality, not about the > >> > implementation details. > >> > >> That's the main difference between info and this. Info is a finished > >> product, this is just a demo of what could be done. > >> > >> > >> > > How about search engines, Nic? > > > > Yes, I know it is not a finished product, but what are your thoughts > about > > it. Google, for example, want a plain html page for indexing. And I guess > > other search engines wants that too. > > There's nothing about the architecture of this that would stop it being > indexed. > > And indexing and presenting a different UI are two different > concerns. As I said before, this just proxies existing GNU > documentation. The existing documentation is very good for indexing and > it's still there. I'm not replacing it. I'm just making a "better" UI > for it. > > Nic > Sounds good. (But of course the html URLs and your URLs must be tied together for the search engines to point to your version. There are tools for that.) --bcaec53d57af9ae71704ffa4ac64 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On S= at, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Nic Ferrier <nferrier@ferrier.me.uk> wrote:
lennart.borgman@gmail.com writes:

> On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Nic Ferrier <nferri= er@ferrier.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>>
>> >> There is some more info here:
>> >>
>> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://github.com/nicferrier/gnudoc-js/=C2= =A0
>> >
>> > Thanks, but I asked about features and functionality, not abo= ut the
>> > implementation details.
>>
>> That's the main difference between info and this. Info is a fi= nished
>> product, this is just a demo of what could be done.
>>
>>
>>
> How about search engines, Nic?
>
> Yes, I know it is not a finished product, but what are your thoughts a= bout
> it. Google, for example, want a plain html page for indexing. And I gu= ess
> other search engines wants that too.

There's nothing about the architecture of this that would s= top it being
indexed.

And indexing and presenting a different UI are two different
concerns. As I said before, this just proxies existing GNU
documentation. The existing documentation is very good for indexing and
it's still there. I'm not replacing it. I'm just making a "= ;better" UI
for it.

Nic

Sounds good. (But of course the html U= RLs and your URLs must be tied together for the search engines to point to = your version. There are tools for that.)
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