Markup (=, ~) in word?

Markup (=, ~) in word?

[Rainer M Krug]

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Hi

I guess this is not possible (and has been asked before, but I can't
find it t the moment...)- but how can I export the following markup?

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
simASM.=SITE=.=STRATEGY=.=BUDGET=.=FIREREGIME=.=JOBID=.=ARRAYID=
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---


Export will be mainly LaTeX, but maybe also html.

Thanks,

Rainer

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Re: Markup (=, ~) in word?

[Matt Price]

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#+BEGIN_VERBATIM
simASM.=SITE=.=STRATEGY=.=BUDGET=.=FIREREGIME=.=JOBID=.=ARRAYID=
#+END_VERBATIM

?

not perfect, but...

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:06 AM, Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de> wrote:

> Hi
>
> I guess this is not possible (and has been asked before, but I can't
> find it t the moment...)- but how can I export the following markup?
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> simASM.=SITE=.=STRATEGY=.=BUDGET=.=FIREREGIME=.=JOBID=.=ARRAYID=
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
>
> Export will be mainly LaTeX, but maybe also html.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rainer
>
> --
> Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation
> Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)
>
> Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
> Stellenbosch University
> South Africa
>
> Tel :       +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44
> Cell:       +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
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>
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>
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>
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>
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Re: Markup (=, ~) in word?

[Rainer M Krug]

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Matt Price <moptop99@gmail.com> writes:

> #+BEGIN_VERBATIM
> simASM.=SITE=.=STRATEGY=.=BUDGET=.=FIREREGIME=.=JOBID=.=ARRAYID=
> #+END_VERBATIM

The other way round:

I want the text, e.g. =SITE= as the markup, and not the whole text as
verbatim - sorry for not being clear about what I want.

Rainer

>
> ?
>
> not perfect, but...
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:06 AM, Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I guess this is not possible (and has been asked before, but I can't
>> find it t the moment...)- but how can I export the following markup?
>>
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>> simASM.=SITE=.=STRATEGY=.=BUDGET=.=FIREREGIME=.=JOBID=.=ARRAYID=
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>>
>>
>> Export will be mainly LaTeX, but maybe also html.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rainer
>>
>> --
>> Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation
>> Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)
>>
>> Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
>> Stellenbosch University
>> South Africa
>>
>> Tel :       +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44
>> Cell:       +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
>> Fax :       +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44
>>
>> Fax (D):    +49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44
>>
>> email:      Rainer@krugs.de
>>
>> Skype:      RMkrug
>>
>> PGP: 0x0F52F982
>>

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Re: Markup (=, ~) in word?

[Göktuğ Kayaalp]

On Thu, Oct 29 2015 at  2:21:17 pm EEST, Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de> wrote:
> Matt Price <moptop99@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> #+BEGIN_VERBATIM
>> simASM.=SITE=.=STRATEGY=.=BUDGET=.=FIREREGIME=.=JOBID=.=ARRAYID=
>> #+END_VERBATIM
>
> The other way round:
>
> I want the text, e.g. =SITE= as the markup, and not the whole text as
> verbatim - sorry for not being clear about what I want.
>
> Rainer
>

AFAIK that is  impossible out of the box, Org  does not allow inter-word
markup,  as there  is no  escaping in  the syntax.   In the  thread with
subject  *Some  projects* on  this  list  they  talk also  about  adding
escaping.  You can still add some inline LaTeX for that though, I think,
or  maybe you  can  tweak  `org-emphasis-regexp-components', (also,  see
[1]):

,----[ C-h v org-emphasis-regexp-components RET ]
| org-emphasis-regexp-components is a variable defined in `org.el'.
| Its value is (" 	('\"{" "- 	.,:!?;'\")}\\" " 	
| ,\"'" "." 1)
| 
| Documentation:
| Components used to build the regular expression for emphasis.
| This is a list with five entries.  Terminology:  In an emphasis string
| like " *strong word* ", we call the initial space PREMATCH, the final
| space POSTMATCH, the stars MARKERS, "s" and "d" are BORDER characters
| and "trong wor" is the body.  The different components in this variable
| specify what is allowed/forbidden in each part:
| 
| pre          Chars allowed as prematch.  Beginning of line will be allowed too.
| post         Chars allowed as postmatch.  End of line will be allowed too.
| border       The chars *forbidden* as border characters.
| body-regexp  A regexp like "." to match a body character.  Don't use
|              non-shy groups here, and don't allow newline here.
| newline      The maximum number of newlines allowed in an emphasis exp.
| 
| You need to reload Org or to restart Emacs after customizing this.
| 
| [back]
`----

> [...]

[1] http://orgmode.org/worg/dev/org-syntax.html#Emphasis_Markers

Regards,
-gk

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Re: Markup (=, ~) in word?

[Rainer M Krug]

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Göktuğ Kayaalp <self@gkayaalp.com> writes:

> On Thu, Oct 29 2015 at  2:21:17 pm EEST, Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de> wrote:
>> Matt Price <moptop99@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> #+BEGIN_VERBATIM
>>> simASM.=SITE=.=STRATEGY=.=BUDGET=.=FIREREGIME=.=JOBID=.=ARRAYID=
>>> #+END_VERBATIM
>>
>> The other way round:
>>
>> I want the text, e.g. =SITE= as the markup, and not the whole text as
>> verbatim - sorry for not being clear about what I want.
>>
>> Rainer
>>
>
> AFAIK that is  impossible out of the box, Org  does not allow inter-word
> markup,  as there  is no  escaping in  the syntax.   In the  thread with
> subject  *Some  projects* on  this  list  they  talk also  about  adding
> escaping.  You can still add some inline LaTeX for that though, I think,
> or  maybe you  can  tweak  `org-emphasis-regexp-components', (also,  see
> [1]):

Thanks a lot for confirming my suspicion,

Rainer

>
> ,----[ C-h v org-emphasis-regexp-components RET ]
> | org-emphasis-regexp-components is a variable defined in `org.el'.
> | Its value is (" 	('\"{" "- 	.,:!?;'\")}\\" " 	
> | ,\"'" "." 1)
> | 
> | Documentation:
> | Components used to build the regular expression for emphasis.
> | This is a list with five entries.  Terminology:  In an emphasis string
> | like " *strong word* ", we call the initial space PREMATCH, the final
> | space POSTMATCH, the stars MARKERS, "s" and "d" are BORDER characters
> | and "trong wor" is the body.  The different components in this variable
> | specify what is allowed/forbidden in each part:
> | 
> | pre          Chars allowed as prematch.  Beginning of line will be allowed too.
> | post         Chars allowed as postmatch.  End of line will be allowed too.
> | border       The chars *forbidden* as border characters.
> | body-regexp  A regexp like "." to match a body character.  Don't use
> |              non-shy groups here, and don't allow newline here.
> | newline      The maximum number of newlines allowed in an emphasis exp.
> | 
> | You need to reload Org or to restart Emacs after customizing this.
> | 
> | [back]
> `----
>
>> [...]
>
> [1] http://orgmode.org/worg/dev/org-syntax.html#Emphasis_Markers
>
> Regards,
> -gk

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Re: Markup (=, ~) in word?

[Göktuğ Kayaalp]

On Thu, Oct 29 2015 at  5:07:55 pm EEST, Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de> wrote:
> Göktuğ Kayaalp <self@gkayaalp.com> writes:
>
>> On Thu, Oct 29 2015 at  2:21:17 pm EEST, Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de> wrote:
>>> Matt Price <moptop99@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> #+BEGIN_VERBATIM
>>>> simASM.=SITE=.=STRATEGY=.=BUDGET=.=FIREREGIME=.=JOBID=.=ARRAYID=
>>>> #+END_VERBATIM
>>>
>>> The other way round:
>>>
>>> I want the text, e.g. =SITE= as the markup, and not the whole text as
>>> verbatim - sorry for not being clear about what I want.
>>>
>>> Rainer
>>>
>>
>> AFAIK that is  impossible out of the box, Org  does not allow inter-word
>> markup,  as there  is no  escaping in  the syntax.   In the  thread with
>> subject  *Some  projects* on  this  list  they  talk also  about  adding
>> escaping.  You can still add some inline LaTeX for that though, I think,
>> or  maybe you  can  tweak  `org-emphasis-regexp-components', (also,  see
>> [1]):
>
> Thanks a lot for confirming my suspicion,

You're welcome.  Though I'm not that well-versed in Org, I merely use
it, maybe someone will have a suggestion that's less-known.

-gk

>
> Rainer
>
>>
>> ,----[ C-h v org-emphasis-regexp-components RET ]
>> | org-emphasis-regexp-components is a variable defined in `org.el'.
>> | Its value is (" 	('\"{" "- 	.,:!?;'\")}\\" " 	
>> | ,\"'" "." 1)
>> | 
>> | Documentation:
>> | Components used to build the regular expression for emphasis.
>> | This is a list with five entries.  Terminology:  In an emphasis string
>> | like " *strong word* ", we call the initial space PREMATCH, the final
>> | space POSTMATCH, the stars MARKERS, "s" and "d" are BORDER characters
>> | and "trong wor" is the body.  The different components in this variable
>> | specify what is allowed/forbidden in each part:
>> | 
>> | pre          Chars allowed as prematch.  Beginning of line will be allowed too.
>> | post         Chars allowed as postmatch.  End of line will be allowed too.
>> | border       The chars *forbidden* as border characters.
>> | body-regexp  A regexp like "." to match a body character.  Don't use
>> |              non-shy groups here, and don't allow newline here.
>> | newline      The maximum number of newlines allowed in an emphasis exp.
>> | 
>> | You need to reload Org or to restart Emacs after customizing this.
>> | 
>> | [back]
>> `----
>>
>>> [...]
>>
>> [1] http://orgmode.org/worg/dev/org-syntax.html#Emphasis_Markers
>>
>> Regards,
>> -gk

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Re: Markup (=, ~) in word?

[Charles C. Berry]

On Thu, 29 Oct 2015, Rainer M Krug wrote:

> Matt Price <moptop99@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> #+BEGIN_VERBATIM
>> simASM.=SITE=.=STRATEGY=.=BUDGET=.=FIREREGIME=.=JOBID=.=ARRAYID=
>> #+END_VERBATIM
>
> The other way round:
>
> I want the text, e.g. =SITE= as the markup, and not the whole text as
> verbatim - sorry for not being clear about what I want.
>
> Rainer
>
>>

Have a look at the `org-emphasis-regexp-components' docstring. If you feel 
bold (pun intended) you might see if adding '\.' to the first element 
works without causing mayhem elsewhere.

A safer hack might be to use markup like this:

simASM.'=SITE=.'=STRATEGY=.'=BUDGET=.'=FIREREGIME=.'=JOBID=.'=ARRAYID=

and add a filter to remove the apostrophes from the ".'\texttt" or 
".'<code>" that results.

HTH,

Chuck

Re: Markup (=, ~) in word?

[Rainer M Krug]

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"Charles C. Berry" <ccberry@ucsd.edu> writes:

> On Thu, 29 Oct 2015, Rainer M Krug wrote:
>
>> Matt Price <moptop99@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> #+BEGIN_VERBATIM
>>> simASM.=SITE=.=STRATEGY=.=BUDGET=.=FIREREGIME=.=JOBID=.=ARRAYID=
>>> #+END_VERBATIM
>>
>> The other way round:
>>
>> I want the text, e.g. =SITE= as the markup, and not the whole text as
>> verbatim - sorry for not being clear about what I want.
>>
>> Rainer
>>
>>>
>
> Have a look at the `org-emphasis-regexp-components' docstring. If you
> feel bold (pun intended) you might see if adding '\.' to the first
> element works without causing mayhem elsewhere.

No - I never feel bold when it comes down to regexp.

>
> A safer hack might be to use markup like this:
>
> simASM.'=SITE=.'=STRATEGY=.'=BUDGET=.'=FIREREGIME=.'=JOBID=.'=ARRAYID=
>
> and add a filter to remove the apostrophes from the ".'\texttt" or
> ".'<code>" that results.

That is an idea - but for the time being, I just put spaces around the
"." and that works find=e for now.

Thanks everybody,

Rainer

>
> HTH,
>
> Chuck
>

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Re: Markup (=, ~) in word?

[Rasmus]

Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de> writes:

> Hi
>
> I guess this is not possible (and has been asked before, but I can't
> find it t the moment...)- but how can I export the following markup?
>
> simASM.=SITE=.=STRATEGY=.=BUDGET=.=FIREREGIME=.=JOBID=.=ARRAYID=
>
>
> Export will be mainly LaTeX, but maybe also html.

You could separate with ZERO WIDTH SPACE.  AFAIR, this requires
(xe/lua)latex, though.  In org-mode-git, you can set #+latex_command.  You
can also remove the zero width spaces with a filter.

E.g.

    (defcustom rasmus/org-latex-unicode-to-tex  '((" " "~")
                                                (" " "\\,")
                                                ("​" ""))
      "list of re rep pairs which are replaced during latex export")

    (defun rasmus/org-latex-unicode-to-tex (text backend info)
      "Replace unicode strings with their TeX equivalents.

  Currently:  ' ' (no break space) to '~'
              ' ' (thin space) to '\,'
              '​'  (zero width space) to ''."
      (when (org-export-derived-backend-p backend 'latex)
        (cl-loop for (re rep) in rasmus/org-latex-unicode-to-tex do
                 (setq text (replace-regexp-in-string re rep text t t)))
        text))

    (add-to-list 'org-export-filter-final-output-functions
                 'rasmus/org-latex-unicode-to-tex)


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Re: Markup (=, ~) in word?

[Rainer M Krug]

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Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:

> Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de> writes:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I guess this is not possible (and has been asked before, but I can't
>> find it t the moment...)- but how can I export the following markup?
>>
>> simASM.=SITE=.=STRATEGY=.=BUDGET=.=FIREREGIME=.=JOBID=.=ARRAYID=
>>
>>
>> Export will be mainly LaTeX, but maybe also html.
>
> You could separate with ZERO WIDTH SPACE.  AFAIR, this requires
> (xe/lua)latex, though.  In org-mode-git, you can set #+latex_command.  You
> can also remove the zero width spaces with a filter.

Looks interesting - thanks.

For the moment, I'll jut use spaces and in the final version, I'll
consider all these options.

Thanks  lot,

Rainer

>
> E.g.
>
>     (defcustom rasmus/org-latex-unicode-to-tex  '((" " "~")
>                                                 (" " "\\,")
>                                                 ("​" ""))
>       "list of re rep pairs which are replaced during latex export")
>
>     (defun rasmus/org-latex-unicode-to-tex (text backend info)
>       "Replace unicode strings with their TeX equivalents.
>
>   Currently:  ' ' (no break space) to '~'
>               ' ' (thin space) to '\,'
>               '​'  (zero width space) to ''."
>       (when (org-export-derived-backend-p backend 'latex)
>         (cl-loop for (re rep) in rasmus/org-latex-unicode-to-tex do
>                  (setq text (replace-regexp-in-string re rep text t t)))
>         text))
>
>     (add-to-list 'org-export-filter-final-output-functions
>                  'rasmus/org-latex-unicode-to-tex)

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