[OT] org-mode bindings in markdown-mode?

[OT] org-mode bindings in markdown-mode?

[Matt Price]

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Hi eveyrone,

I'm using markdown more and more in collaborative projects (sigh). I am
getting used to the syntax but it drives me crazy not to be able to edit
document structure with commands like C-return,, M-return, etc.  Does
anyone have a solution for this that works with recent versions of org? I'm
not up to date on the current status of various projects to extend org
bindings outside of org.

Thank you!
Matt

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Re: [OT] org-mode bindings in markdown-mode?

[Marcin Borkowski]

On 2018-04-13, at 15:14, Matt Price <moptop99@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi eveyrone,
>
> I'm using markdown more and more in collaborative projects (sigh). I am
> getting used to the syntax but it drives me crazy not to be able to edit
> document structure with commands like C-return,, M-return, etc.  Does
> anyone have a solution for this that works with recent versions of org? I'm
> not up to date on the current status of various projects to extend org
> bindings outside of org.

Just wondering whether the lentic mode
(https://github.com/phillord/lentic) with an org->md transformation
could help.  (I haven't yet used lentic, so I might be competely wrong.)

I'm CC'ing Phillip, who is the right person to comment on this idea.

Best,

-- 
Marcin Borkowski
http://mbork.pl

Re: [OT] org-mode bindings in markdown-mode?

[John Kitchin]

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I think lentic is the wrong tool for this. I think it is most useful with
mixed markups, e.g. code in some language, and comments in org/md/...

Your best solution in md is probably to create your own key-bindings that
are similar to what you use in org-mode, but that use functions from
https://jblevins.org/projects/markdown-mode/ to get something kind of close.

John

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On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 7:38 AM, Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> wrote:

>
> On 2018-04-13, at 15:14, Matt Price <moptop99@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi eveyrone,
> >
> > I'm using markdown more and more in collaborative projects (sigh). I am
> > getting used to the syntax but it drives me crazy not to be able to edit
> > document structure with commands like C-return,, M-return, etc.  Does
> > anyone have a solution for this that works with recent versions of org?
> I'm
> > not up to date on the current status of various projects to extend org
> > bindings outside of org.
>
> Just wondering whether the lentic mode
> (https://github.com/phillord/lentic) with an org->md transformation
> could help.  (I haven't yet used lentic, so I might be competely wrong.)
>
> I'm CC'ing Phillip, who is the right person to comment on this idea.
>
> Best,
>
> --
> Marcin Borkowski
> http://mbork.pl
>
>

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Re: [OT] org-mode bindings in markdown-mode?

[Matt Price]

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Thanks to both of you. I guess I will add some bindings, maybe in the form
of a light minor mode.  Unfortunately the markdown mode fun tions just
srent nearly as powerful as the org mode ones, but a little bit if improved
muscle memory will be better than nothing I guess.

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 10:48 AM John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:

> I think lentic is the wrong tool for this. I think it is most useful with
> mixed markups, e.g. code in some language, and comments in org/md/...
>
> Your best solution in md is probably to create your own key-bindings that
> are similar to what you use in org-mode, but that use functions from
> https://jblevins.org/projects/markdown-mode/ to get something kind of
> close.
>
> John
>
> -----------------------------------
> Professor John Kitchin
> Doherty Hall A207F
> Department of Chemical Engineering
> Carnegie Mellon University
> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
> 412-268-7803
> @johnkitchin
> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 7:38 AM, Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 2018-04-13, at 15:14, Matt Price <moptop99@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi eveyrone,
>> >
>> > I'm using markdown more and more in collaborative projects (sigh). I am
>> > getting used to the syntax but it drives me crazy not to be able to edit
>> > document structure with commands like C-return,, M-return, etc.  Does
>> > anyone have a solution for this that works with recent versions of org?
>> I'm
>> > not up to date on the current status of various projects to extend org
>> > bindings outside of org.
>>
>> Just wondering whether the lentic mode
>> (https://github.com/phillord/lentic) with an org->md transformation
>> could help.  (I haven't yet used lentic, so I might be competely wrong.)
>>
>> I'm CC'ing Phillip, who is the right person to comment on this idea.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> --
>> Marcin Borkowski
>> http://mbork.pl
>>
>>
>

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Re: [OT] org-mode bindings in markdown-mode?

[Phillip Lord]

Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> writes:

> On 2018-04-13, at 15:14, Matt Price <moptop99@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi eveyrone,
>>
>> I'm using markdown more and more in collaborative projects (sigh). I am
>> getting used to the syntax but it drives me crazy not to be able to edit
>> document structure with commands like C-return,, M-return, etc.  Does
>> anyone have a solution for this that works with recent versions of org? I'm
>> not up to date on the current status of various projects to extend org
>> bindings outside of org.
>
> Just wondering whether the lentic mode
> (https://github.com/phillord/lentic) with an org->md transformation
> could help.  (I haven't yet used lentic, so I might be competely wrong.)
>
> I'm CC'ing Phillip, who is the right person to comment on this idea.


It's an interesting idea, actually, and it would be a general way of
enabling text markup languages. You'd always edit in org-mode.

However, I think the problem would be writing the implementation. lentic
cannot really cope with complex text markups since it has to redo the
transformation often (every keypress). So the transformation rules need
to be really simple.

I haven't done a lentic transform for markdown yet, although I ought
to. The main problem is that the start of code sections is implicit,
which makes it a PITA.

Phil