From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Pierpaolo Bernardi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On language-dependent defaults for character-folding Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 18:39:43 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1455039604 28586 80.91.229.3 (9 Feb 2016 17:40:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 17:40:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel To: Artur Malabarba Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 09 18:40:03 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aTCGg-0000wk-BI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 18:40:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58782 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTCGf-0003rp-Rq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 12:40:01 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60240) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTCGP-0003Ux-JW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 12:39:46 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTCGO-0007qw-OE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 12:39:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-vk0-x229.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c05::229]:32920) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTCGO-0007qj-KV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 12:39:44 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-vk0-x229.google.com with SMTP id k196so55418042vka.0 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 09:39:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=dhBNzGOg3x/ZxTcv6X2rTEHmggJVAK2XY9vzBR2Nh+0=; b=LmajIF1sXCFssu0RdgFfug72Ubp2N9XWv7XW0z4HV5JmHy6K4/4O0mN01LaB83SAWr RvVUo+IBSLxXCPEv8sl5EoPCNSRB5cxCWHnK89hTaEF/mFXv3dS02nwd7mZ2M2oxy3M7 WMPs1AI9OCLAp4d9YZjiJUQJxT/qezykbTWGVKp2QR0rbIqOM9HNmZ70dpM+sEOytELw 5NEW/kBJPCkX61XFp8M3gKRPPhqEfBrHo3afLr8DUgrS2G40CLhLQK4jmbJ1vP8eMQku U0LVC9x8Rdu+8mZH5hwrZ9HejjaTXdqhoP19Zvv0WtIP2dQAMcJYA3Oi9lJtbrlOBhmf im0w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=dhBNzGOg3x/ZxTcv6X2rTEHmggJVAK2XY9vzBR2Nh+0=; b=LNX/WxbWuNGHDDl1DSUTFcdP7YzygZPJuMTgyA43gKu6Le1GQ0JjitK/RY7mLnsmDp 92PRsM5DL2iEHVeQ9BvjlgJgzyVQYm45Wmz3dNyK7IWU2SkTuje+tuOkIFjuQIFTPBEd nPgmaeRfit7VCf4qwn8VDBPz/wDovnbMiImrRFXAaE7hiPcw4yLPKIp1p1z6zNLuvPRS WBq7K1pzhLTS70bbe+v9fAcFwyarYZgsiWtqWLTHdmHt4oqRQfrSoXYD/mYRnV/0iosN Z8k50CEmEiEF70V72PAiLOhCLZK32hOf6Bj+APOlGArC0ZCZXSf1rtRj56g3Ok6+cLZ7 zhJw== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOTaGpRjWC5Iqu/gmfYxupRgCa2Isjs8hu/q+VwnAktzpY0EduKh86WLxmLGYWChW+jCM1H1yAUyHbgsXg== X-Received: by 10.31.47.205 with SMTP id v196mr26026542vkv.18.1455039583425; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 09:39:43 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.159.34.53 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Feb 2016 09:39:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c05::229 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:199619 Archived-At: On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Artur Malabarba wrote: > == Bottomline == > I don't know if it's possible to figure out the language of the user's > keyboard layout. But the point is that we should care about the > language that the user can _type_ in, NOT the language that they > happen to be _reading_ now nor the language that they happen to > _know_. So, if I'm using my laptop on which I use a US-international layout I will get no folding for any character in Latin-1, if I use a nearby machine with an Italian keyboard layout I get a different behavior, if I use another machine with a US layout I get another different behavior. That will be the time that I revert to Emacs 19. FWIW, my preference would be for a different function altogether, disjoint from the non-folding version.