From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Pierpaolo Bernardi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On language-dependent defaults for character-folding Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 04:01:50 +0100 Message-ID: References: <56BA27BF.1090303@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1455073326 5020 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2016 03:02:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 03:02:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Paul Eggert , emacs-devel To: Artur Malabarba Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 10 04:02:06 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aTL2b-0003zJ-MW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 04:02:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34877 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTL2b-0006ph-1z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 22:02:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59241) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTL2O-0006pP-En for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 22:01:53 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTL2N-0003Yc-Jr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 22:01:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-vk0-x229.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c05::229]:36726) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTL2N-0003YY-FN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 22:01:51 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-vk0-x229.google.com with SMTP id c3so4500670vkb.3 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 19:01:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=P/La8xU2R9Ibml2bT5gy6mAqDDenvQh/vKkr+nOtkZE=; b=xLBBOyuMGsgopSc8rX1yeTJ/QiotrAJ/QShuMbNMv5UDTuJHiksOdg9NqSFp28NTy8 fHR7SB0sgw7w4c69OkQJ3lO1uhHFiAEGbuCP1nt7kTwyNIHvBOJyCR9Q/C+OxcHW52yr lr/dyoFK4JJbr3nqtDr7sJWrrdDc0pqPrF11r1lQVGCjQMwGmFFncCm5V7YneZ5dcZe9 SQ1jNucTmhg+q03KXDExSXHF09M8Qar999pQdDiI1H79umevHGIIfdr9XqtJPjavOy+3 KeyZSg2PMYqOnMdbdJSPtp+h2RhlctPAleC3+x0Mve6IRdSQvFo1936TRmdLxnc0jsT7 XPXg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=P/La8xU2R9Ibml2bT5gy6mAqDDenvQh/vKkr+nOtkZE=; b=Be0P3ykRiTOcuveIkRBPd/xczSiYnDCWiJ0RUtg3YHivjmklftkUGEqpMWNhbM049b 20i6rjet/++BlAJiV47V6kSrRsYHgEl9/5qTLOGTAb4Fx2/ZQAWTKT5GwF7JPvTpnDkn 4UD4HCRaGCATJ384Mfy9Di2cF8QVItXqkNIaTOon5hCFg5RrxUj9TItVQ3K6nMy+acKE g78dk6A+MTG3eWgfiqT0YRn6UOlMXupI89A3d8wZ1Ehthp8gNYSjSsvgj8W7h+anLtuo 4W0XJx8o+iP+0X8wWMeS6tu2x9JXJ8Zp6pdSsFv/5T6jAEBoMCdBluuHv8B1yVbw7SFs bExA== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOTkODyCfNWzVypfFqQVJ/1HLpbFj9duLAdupMydfrtcrkgv7Ck9Oj8rAil3re+tRwCzg9/kWm/yhJXP8Q== X-Received: by 10.31.13.79 with SMTP id 76mr27307922vkn.148.1455073310999; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 19:01:50 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.159.34.53 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:01:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c05::229 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:199666 Archived-At: On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 3:20 AM, Artur Malabarba wrote: > On 9 Feb 2016 10:49 pm, "Pierpaolo Bernardi" wrote: >> The point is that he proposes to have the default behavior of Emacs be >> different depending on random environmental features of the computer >> it's running on. > > Except for the word "random", yes, that was the proposal. Why do you feel > that's bad? Because I want a consistent behavior. The example I made is not invented, I use regularly more than one machine. These machines have different keyboards layouts and drivers, because not all of them are under my control, and I cannot uniform their hardware and system software, even if I wished to do so.