From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Pierpaolo Bernardi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On language-dependent defaults for character-folding Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 01:49:50 +0100 Message-ID: References: <56BA27BF.1090303@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1455065407 22575 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2016 00:50:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 00:50:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Artur Malabarba , emacs-devel To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 10 01:50:07 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aTIys-00005x-UE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 01:50:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34093 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTIys-0006GJ-BW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 19:50:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52722) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTIye-0006Fx-8W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 19:49:52 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTIyd-00011d-CY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 19:49:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-vk0-x236.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c05::236]:33172) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTIyd-00011Y-7j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 19:49:51 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-vk0-x236.google.com with SMTP id k196so3063648vka.0 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 16:49:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=NEw1sm9E58Bv8rIzlM60Q72REx4kyLTVAANtasK94IA=; b=z2IwJJOOJHKTG+0MHLHzH3QOGZnKE9spxHRTvjuA7U9W2G3zxK2rDHrxg37oqc27Bk Ws/AAplXoD8vWcItnRQrtfnvaXghMfzb3MbQyssOOm7DenWcgua/dJUZlgtoPSHfMc50 lDb+th5GRYbrFfU23ud+3DhCjUdBlL7kISY7SyWJ5tQBcUzBm6YsRVocS7d/FSrfDVtg RTXmi9dQJC1cVUnYVIffz36aaq7QU4k/eMRoPfVmF9KCz+b1IO3cIbZyBCWVPGythjk6 2jUP/IIqnYVTDrFkYZlzz5WSVFbWpbOLDPb9yv7RmxiDgeVsR49O+AvPapTA2LgKXvQM 5/VQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=NEw1sm9E58Bv8rIzlM60Q72REx4kyLTVAANtasK94IA=; b=j7qSpollXiA4DrIFBv5+KWP+gTsYDYXygtS781sYDC902IkdLmdzoF4bNWmiNjPHEM J4jRAEPGvWGSvUAhumTD1MxX7MSJ69uJkni9XQRua6qMeuiiK5HA1oRSXcXaDhj7FJN2 m1KuseHeDnOOp/VwOiX7TDnXN3+YKk+g10K7+wLrJECiR0j+q9ewIyl3b3wBgvY8kBiO bPuse6G647z6RNwLQa7g6vW1DotMqCrJdLs53AuEwDl19QZl8pgEir/vLwtVxlHou6Ym aYZMUKM/QlpgbKgmGTOiymWdxajjElzABz2kXL07DpVQSqmYYFllLdnRqXJ1KOkVx1N/ F3jg== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOTDvhN1AHFpnfWH6Gn8e8AXgimMYkKpJ5BIgcqlxr7i46KPd5KMkQJV8uOcJl1PcDyCtnLvZcZe62rwXw== X-Received: by 10.31.141.10 with SMTP id p10mr28005087vkd.93.1455065390802; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 16:49:50 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.159.34.53 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Feb 2016 16:49:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <56BA27BF.1090303@cs.ucla.edu> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c05::236 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:199653 Archived-At: On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 6:54 PM, Paul Eggert wrote: > On 02/09/2016 09:39 AM, Pierpaolo Bernardi wrote: >> >> So, if I'm using my laptop on which I use a US-international layout I >> will get no folding for any character in Latin-1 > > That's not what Artur's saying. The layout of the keyboard hardware is not > the same thing as the language that the user can easily type in. How so? The layout of the keyboard hardware and its driver are fundamental parts of what one can easily type in. The point is that he proposes to have the default behavior of Emacs be different depending on random environmental features of the computer it's running on.