From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juergen Fenn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as word processor Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 15:15:55 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5288A59E.7030109@dancol.org> <8761rrtc3w.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384697755 3861 80.91.229.3 (17 Nov 2013 14:15:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 14:15:55 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 17 15:16:02 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vi38r-0003F6-Jx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 15:16:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39158 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vi38r-00047Z-6X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 09:16:01 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44581) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vi38o-00047T-Gp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 09:15:59 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vi38n-0004yo-Nz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 09:15:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pd0-x236.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c02::236]:45938) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vi38n-0004yk-GG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 09:15:57 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pd0-f182.google.com with SMTP id y13so5438067pdi.13 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 06:15:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KuLZOGjZgzpjFBEa1KAT9/mxK8WP2a44P/+BnCfL0nQ=; b=Bspf0IScLJekVroMoE97TsQGp2VcYJ6E+K9eaZj39WX32j9b/OCvHNh4D4gKrtdb34 YmYsowaKIMPDe+s8g1PhKPtTQH5raunK06wFLc1/CyYe6EG0z25hrpkzX8HWLjJzMrG1 iRy4g4QJ2qau/Qu6ig7mfo9B0qya22fWPEUD2lL5pXEBdAMKkrNYCL+fk4Z3QsNlIBuV kSjrla061oaiVVgT7pH35uVdzFRi+xyU0VgCphwJVBrWxUXAvdh4aOYBad8/B7YOF7EK nPpx7O06CXEIcTTeHUdSL+s/izmUjTvXde2NjUoT4Nb9ZYWkx8Dba8273NqyRhzGI68I +AiA== X-Received: by 10.66.145.40 with SMTP id sr8mr16689423pab.60.1384697755918; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 06:15:55 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.70.128.234 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 06:15:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c02::236 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165297 Archived-At: 2013/11/17 Lennart Borgman : > That must be a misunderstanding. Of course WYSIWYS is a good feature for > many people. It is just that document structure must be uncoupled from > layout. > > And LibreOffice etc has focused on this. Please do not forget about the LaTeX frontend LyX which allows for "what you see is what you mean" editing and layout. However, I agree the word processor world is something different from Emacs= . Regards, J=FCrgen.