* Re: spell make it work emacs on AppleMac
2017-04-19 10:01 ` Ben Bacarisse
@ 2017-04-20 8:04 ` Richard Smith
2017-04-20 11:25 ` hector
2017-04-20 11:35 ` Ben Bacarisse
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Richard Smith @ 2017-04-20 8:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> writes:
> Richard Smith <null@void.com> writes:
>
>> On AppleMac "Air" - laptop - using as-installed emacs.
>
> I don't know what version that is. What does M-x version say?
>
>> ESC-x ispell not working - nor any other spell command. Have lived
>> for years without "spell" program in emacs
>
> What does not working mean? Do you get told there is no such command or
> what? What do M-x apropos spell and M-x customize-apropos spell show
> you?
>
>> Then couple of days ago, got surprise when accidentally pressed what
>> must have been the ESC-tab command - and got spell-check on preceding
>> word.
>> So ispell is installed?
>> Can I get it to work?
>>
>> Fifteen to twenty years ago, would charge forward typing text making
>> many typo's and let ispell sort it all out.
>> Miss it terribly - help appreciated.
>
> These days I prefer flyspell-mode which checks as you go, but the ispell
> command does give you better information.
>
>> PS - does it make more sense to install a full unix?
>> Miss GnuPlot, xfig, the GIMP, etc.
>
> I don't think anyone can answer that for you!
>
> --
> Ben.
Hi Ben
Your questions answered as best I can:
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GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (mac-apple-darwin) of 2017-03-17 on osx338.sd.apple.com
macOS Sierra Version 10.12.4
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* you didn't ask for this, but this is what the "*Messages*" buffer
* shows when you "hit" ESC-tab (M-tab (?))
Loading ispell...done
Starting "look" process...
... then you see all the spelling options, just as if ispell were
running
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* M-x apropos spell
** [I had searched C-h a for mention of "spell" !]
In this buffer, go to the name of the command, or function, or variable,
and type RET to get full documentation.
checkdoc-ispell
Command: Check the style and spelling of everything interactively.
checkdoc-ispell-comments
Command: Check the style and spelling of the current buffer's comments.
checkdoc-ispell-continue
Command: Check the style and spelling of the current buffer after point.
checkdoc-ispell-current-buffer
Command: Check the style and spelling of the current buffer.
checkdoc-ispell-defun
Command: Check the style and spelling of the current defun with Ispell.
checkdoc-ispell-interactive
Command: Check the style and spelling of the current buffer interactively.
checkdoc-ispell-message-interactive
Command: Check the style and spelling of message text interactively.
checkdoc-ispell-message-text
Command: Check the style and spelling of message text interactively.
checkdoc-ispell-start
Command: Check the style and spelling of the current buffer.
erc-spelling-mode
Command: (not documented)
flyspell-buffer
Command: Flyspell whole buffer.
flyspell-mode
Command: Minor mode performing on-the-fly spelling checking.
Variable: (not documented)
Plist: event-symbol-element-mask event-symbol-elements modifier-cache
flyspell-mode-off
Function: Turn Flyspell mode off.
flyspell-prog-mode
Command: Turn on `flyspell-mode' for comments and strings.
flyspell-region
Command: Flyspell text between BEG and END.
ispell
Command: Interactively check a region or buffer for spelling errors.
ispell-buffer
Command: Check the current buffer for spelling errors interactively.
Plist: event-symbol-element-mask event-symbol-elements modifier-cache
ispell-change-dictionary
Command: Change to dictionary DICT for Ispell.
Plist: event-symbol-element-mask event-symbol-elements modifier-cache
ispell-check-comments
Plist: safe-local-variable
ispell-comments-and-strings
Command: Check comments and strings in the current buffer for spelling errors.
Plist: event-symbol-element-mask event-symbol-elements modifier-cache
ispell-complete-word
Command: Try to complete the word before or under point (see `lookup-words').
Plist: event-symbol-element-mask event-symbol-elements modifier-cache
ispell-complete-word-interior-frag
Command: Completes word matching character sequence inside a word.
Plist: event-symbol-element-mask event-symbol-elements modifier-cache
ispell-continue
Command: Continue a halted spelling session beginning with the current word.
Plist: event-symbol-element-mask event-symbol-elements modifier-cache
ispell-customize
Plist: event-symbol-element-mask event-symbol-elements modifier-cache
ispell-dictionary-alist
Variable: An alist of dictionaries and their associated parameters.
Plist: variable-documentation
ispell-dictionary-alist-1
Variable: (not documented)
ispell-dictionary-alist-2
Variable: (not documented)
ispell-dictionary-alist-3
Variable: (not documented)
ispell-dictionary-alist-4
Variable: (not documented)
ispell-dictionary-alist-5
Variable: (not documented)
ispell-dictionary-alist-6
Variable: (not documented)
ispell-help
Function: Display a list of the options available when a misspelling is encountered.
Plist: event-symbol-element-mask event-symbol-elements modifier-cache
ispell-html-skip-alists
Variable: *Lists of start and end keys to skip in HTML buffers.
Plist: variable-documentation
ispell-kill-ispell
Command: Kill current Ispell process (so that you may start a fresh one).
Plist: event-symbol-element-mask event-symbol-elements modifier-cache
ispell-local-dictionary
Plist: safe-local-variable
ispell-local-dictionary-alist
Variable: *List of local or customized dictionary definitions.
Plist: variable-documentation custom-autoload custom-loads
ispell-menu-map
Function: Prefix command (definition is a keymap associating keystrokes with commands).
Variable: Key map for ispell menu.
Plist: variable-documentation
ispell-menu-map-needed
Variable: (not documented)
ispell-menu-xemacs
Variable: Spelling menu for XEmacs.
Plist: variable-documentation
ispell-message
Command: Check the spelling of a mail message or news post.
Plist: event-symbol-element-mask event-symbol-elements modifier-cache
ispell-minor-mode
Command: Toggle Ispell minor mode.
ispell-pdict-save
Command: Check to see if the personal dictionary has been modified.
Plist: event-symbol-element-mask event-symbol-elements modifier-cache
ispell-personal-dictionary
Variable: *File name of your personal spelling dictionary, or nil.
Plist: variable-documentation custom-autoload custom-loads
ispell-region
Command: Interactively check a region for spelling errors.
Plist: event-symbol-element-mask event-symbol-elements modifier-cache
ispell-skip-region-alist
Variable: Alist expressing beginning and end of regions not to spell check.
Plist: variable-documentation
ispell-tex-skip-alists
Variable: *Lists of regions to be skipped in TeX mode.
Plist: variable-documentation
ispell-word
Command: Check spelling of word under or before the cursor.
Plist: event-symbol-element-mask event-symbol-elements modifier-cache
separator-spell
Plist: event-symbol-element-mask event-symbol-elements modifier-cache
spell
Plist: event-symbol-element-mask event-symbol-elements modifier-cache
spell-buffer
Command: Check spelling of every word in the buffer.
spell-filter
Plist: risky-local-variable
spell-region
Command: Like `spell-buffer' but applies only to region.
spell-string
Command: Check spelling of string supplied as argument.
spell-word
Command: Check spelling of word at or before point.
turn-off-flyspell
Function: Unconditionally turn off Flyspell mode.
turn-on-flyspell
Function: Unconditionally turn on Flyspell mode.
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* M-x customize-apropos spell
This is a customization buffer.
Square brackets indicate buttons; type RET or click mouse-1 to actuate one.
Editing a setting changes only the text in the buffer.
Use the setting's State button to set it or save changes in it.
Saving a change normally works by editing your Emacs init file.
See [Custom file] for information on how to save in a different file.
See [Help] for more information.
Operate on all settings in this buffer that are not marked HIDDEN:
[Set for Current Session] [Save for Future Sessions]
[Undo Edits] [Reset to Saved] [Erase Customization] [Finish]
Ispell Alternate Dictionary: [Hide Value] [Value Menu] File: /usr/share/dict/web2
[State]: STANDARD.
Alternate dictionary for spelling help.
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Check Comments: [Hide Value] [Value Menu] on
[State]: STANDARD.
Spelling of comments checked when non-nil. [More]
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Choices Win Default Height: [Hide Value] 2
[State]: STANDARD.
The default size of the `*Choices*' window, including mode line. [More]
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Complete Word Dict: [Hide Value] [Value Menu] File: /usr/share/dict/web2
[State]: STANDARD.
Dictionary used for word completion.
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Extra Args: [Show Value]
State: HIDDEN, invoke "Show" in the previous line to show.
If non-nil, a list of extra switches to pass to the Ispell program. [More]
Ispell Following Word: [Hide Value] [Toggle] off (nil)
[State]: STANDARD.
Non-nil means `ispell-word' checks the word around or after point. [More]
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Format Word Function: [Hide Value] upcase
[State]: STANDARD.
Formatting function for displaying word being spell checked. [More]
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Grep Command: [Hide Value] egrep
[State]: STANDARD.
Name of the grep command for search processes.
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Grep Options: [Hide Value] -i
[State]: STANDARD.
String of options to use when running the program in `ispell-grep-command'. [More]
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Have New Look: [Hide Value] [Toggle] off (nil)
[State]: STANDARD.
Non-nil means use the `-r' option (regexp) when running `look'.
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Help In Bufferp: [Hide Value] [Value Menu] off
[State]: STANDARD.
Non-nil means display interactive keymap help in a buffer. [More]
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Highlight Face: [Hide Value] (sample) isearch
[State]: STANDARD.
The face used for Ispell highlighting. For Emacses with overlays. [More]
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Highlight P: [Hide Value] [Value Menu] block
[State]: STANDARD.
Highlight spelling errors when non-nil. [More]
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Keep Choices Win: [Hide Value] [Toggle] on (non-nil)
[State]: STANDARD.
When non-nil, the `*Choices*' window remains for spelling session. [More]
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Lazy Highlight: [Hide Value] [Toggle] on (non-nil)
[State]: STANDARD.
Controls the lazy-highlighting of spelling errors. [More]
Parent groups: [Lazy Highlight] [Ispell]
Ispell Local Dictionary: [Hide Value] [Value Menu] default
[State]: STANDARD.
If non-nil, the dictionary to be used for Ispell commands in this buffer. [More]
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Local Dictionary Alist: [Show Value]
State: HIDDEN, invoke "Show" in the previous line to show.
List of local or customized dictionary definitions. [More]
Ispell Look Command: [Hide Value] /usr/bin/look
[State]: STANDARD.
Name of the look command for search processes. [More]
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Look Options: [Hide Value] -df
[State]: STANDARD.
String of command options for `ispell-look-command'.
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Look P: [Hide Value] [Toggle] on (non-nil)
[State]: STANDARD.
Non-nil means use `look' rather than `grep'. [More]
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Message Dictionary Alist: [Show Value]
State: HIDDEN, invoke "Show" in the previous line to show.
List used by `ispell-message' to select a new dictionary. [More]
Ispell Message Fcc Skip: [Hide Value] [Value Menu] Integer: 50000
[State]: STANDARD.
Query before saving Fcc message copy if attachment larger than this value. [More]
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Personal Dictionary: [Hide Value] [Value Menu] default
[State]: STANDARD.
File name of your personal spelling dictionary, or nil. [More]
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Program Name: [Hide Value] ispell
[State]: STANDARD.
Program invoked by M-$ and M-x ispell-region commands.
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Query Replace Choices: [Hide Value] [Toggle] off (nil)
[State]: STANDARD.
Corrections made throughout region when non-nil. [More]
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Quietly: [Hide Value] [Toggle] off (nil)
[State]: STANDARD.
Non-nil means suppress messages in `ispell-word'.
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Silently Savep: [Hide Value] [Toggle] off (nil)
[State]: STANDARD.
When non-nil, save the personal dictionary without confirmation.
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Skip Html: [Hide Value] [Value Menu] use-mode-name
[State]: STANDARD.
Indicates whether ispell should skip spell checking of SGML markup. [More]
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Skip Tib: [Hide Value] [Toggle] off (nil)
[State]: STANDARD.
Does not spell check `tib' bibliography references when non-nil. [More]
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Use Framepop P: [Hide Value] [Toggle] off (nil)
[State]: STANDARD.
When non-nil ispell uses framepop to display choices in a dedicated frame. [More]
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell Use Ptys P: [Hide Value] [Toggle] off (nil)
[State]: STANDARD.
When non-nil, Emacs uses ptys to communicate with Ispell. [More]
Parent groups: [Ispell]
Ispell group: [Go to Group]
User variables for Emacs ispell interface.
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* You didn't ask about this - hope it's helpful.
* Find code for "spell" programs is, apparently, included
* /usr/share/emacs/22.1/
/usr/share/emacs/22.1/:
find . \( -iname \*spell\* \) -exec ls -ld \{\} \;
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 844 17 Oct 2005 etc/images/low-color/spell.xpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 185 17 Oct 2005 etc/images/spell.pbm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1279 17 Oct 2005 etc/images/spell.xpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1662 1 Apr 2007 lisp/erc/erc-spelling.el.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4709 17 Mar 01:23 lisp/erc/erc-spelling.elc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 20031 25 May 2007 lisp/textmodes/flyspell.el.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 52722 17 Mar 01:26 lisp/textmodes/flyspell.elc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 43683 25 May 2007 lisp/textmodes/ispell.el.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 96846 17 Mar 01:26 lisp/textmodes/ispell.elc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2089 21 Jan 2007 lisp/textmodes/spell.el.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3854 17 Mar 01:26 lisp/textmodes/spell.elc
* I did try things like M-x load-file ispell - which didn't change
* anything, FWIW
* here is effect of then giving command ESC x ispell (M-x ispell (?))
Starting new Ispell process [default] ...
apply: Searching for program: no such file or directory, ispell
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