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From: Ship Mints <shipmints@gmail.com>
To: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>
Cc: 73318@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	acorallo@gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org
Subject: bug#73318: 31.0.50; with-native-compilation=aot breaks exec -a emacs
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 18:45:45 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAN+1HbqoA71fhDzps+yuDy238vMariq96wtQQfc-ngifru2xPw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ierikuthpzq.fsf@janestreet.com>

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I agree in the main. This thread looks relevant to pdump concerns. I have
no experience making my own pdumps as some seem to do.

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2019-01/msg00558.html

On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 6:31 PM Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com> wrote:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> >> From: Ship Mints <shipmints@gmail.com>
> >> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 15:22:18 -0400
> >> Cc: sbaugh@janestreet.com, 73318@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org,
> >>      acorallo@gnu.org
> >> I think the kind of "unreliability" in question is, for example, when a
> process starts and unlinks itself. I doubt
> >> Emacs will ever do this. Using the proc file system is "technically"
> unreliable, unable to cover 100% of all
> >> potential cases, but is practically reliable, especially in this case.
> >
> > I don't remember the details, sorry.  You are welcome to look up the
> > past discussions in the archives.  I think they were triggered by look
> > up of the pdumper file, but the results of that are also used by the
> > code which decides where to look for the *.eln files.
>
> I looked up /proc/self/exe in the archives and the only mention is
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2019-05/msg00951.html
>
> Gnulib uses /proc/self/exe to provide support for relocatability (in
> progreloc.c).  If it's reliable enough for Gnulib, it should be reliable
> enough for Emacs.
>
> With all due humility, I think I personally am enough of an expert on
> Linux minutiae to say that /proc/self/exe will be substantially more
> reliable than using argv[0].
>
> I can provide a patch to make invocation-directory use /proc/self/exe,
> why don't we just try installing it on master?  If it's worse, we should
> learn soon enough.
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-17 22:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-17 15:18 bug#73318: 31.0.50; with-native-compilation=aot breaks exec -a emacs Spencer Baugh via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-17 15:40 ` Spencer Baugh via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-17 17:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-17 18:14   ` Ship Mints
2024-09-17 19:07     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-17 19:22       ` Ship Mints
2024-09-17 19:31         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-17 22:31           ` Spencer Baugh via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-17 22:45             ` Ship Mints [this message]
2024-09-18 13:11             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19  3:09               ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-19 12:54                 ` Ship Mints
2024-09-19 13:44                   ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-19 13:51                     ` Ship Mints
2024-09-19 15:45                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-04 12:09               ` Spencer Baugh via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-04 12:51                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-04 13:22                   ` Spencer Baugh via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-04 13:57                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-04 14:02                       ` shipmints
2024-10-04 16:51                       ` Spencer Baugh via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-04 19:09                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-07 14:18                           ` Spencer Baugh via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-07 18:44                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-07 20:16                               ` Spencer Baugh via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-08 11:47                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-08 12:16                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-04 19:16                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-08 23:35                     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-10-09 12:13                       ` Eli Zaretskii

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