Smells like anti-virus or some other third-party drivers interfering. I wonder if this is on a corporate computer or personal one. If personal, it should be easy to temporarily disable potentially interfering tools. 

On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 9:47 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> From: Vladimir Šironja <vladimir.sironja@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:12:39 +0100
> Cc: 74311@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> sorry, didn't quite understand which bugs should be separated, please
> advice again,

Sorry, my misunderstanding, please ignore that part.

> 1) regarding netlogon, I do not really have an option disconnecting from DC

Canj you at least try it once, to see if that is the root cause?

> Here the debugger session:
>
> (gdb) b w32.c:701
> Breakpoint 1 at 0x40031a8e0: file w32.c, line 701.
> (gdb) run
> Starting program: C:\Development\emacs-emacs-29.4\src\emacs.exe
> [New Thread 20812.0x73b4]
> [New Thread 20812.0x7bbc]
> [New Thread 20812.0x60fc]
>
> Thread 1 hit Breakpoint 1, lookup_account_sid (lpSystemName=0x0,
> Sid=0x3e714b0, Name=0xbfe850 "└o\021", cbName=0xbfe32c,
> DomainName=0xbfe330 "b", cbDomainName=0xbfe328, peUse=0xbfe314) at
> w32.c:701
> 701       HMODULE hm_advapi32 = NULL;
> (gdb) bt
> #0  lookup_account_sid (lpSystemName=0x0, Sid=0x3e714b0, Name=0xbfe850
> "└o\021", cbName=0xbfe32c, DomainName=0xbfe330 "b",
> cbDomainName=0xbfe328, peUse=0xbfe314) at w32.c:701
> #1  0x00007ff79378d364 in init_user_info () at w32.c:2314
> #2  0x00007ff79378f2fe in init_environment (argv=0x26015b0) at w32.c:3233
> #3  0x00007ff7935a93de in main (argc=1, argv=0x26015b0) at emacs.c:2120
> (gdb) continue
> Continuing.
>
> Thread 1 hit Breakpoint 1, lookup_account_sid (lpSystemName=0x0,
> Sid=0x3e714a8, Name=0xbfe740 "XDړ\001", cbName=0xbfe320,
> DomainName=0x0, cbDomainName=0xbfe328, peUse=0xbfe314) at w32.c:701
> 701       HMODULE hm_advapi32 = NULL;
> (gdb) bt
> #0  lookup_account_sid (lpSystemName=0x0, Sid=0x3e714a8, Name=0xbfe740
> "XDړ\001", cbName=0xbfe320, DomainName=0x0, cbDomainName=0xbfe328,
> peUse=0xbfe314) at w32.c:701
> #1  0x00007ff79378d50c in init_user_info () at w32.c:2354
> #2  0x00007ff79378f2fe in init_environment (argv=0x26015b0) at w32.c:3233
> #3  0x00007ff7935a93de in main (argc=1, argv=0x26015b0) at emacs.c:2120
> (gdb) info locals
> cache = {ret = 1, Name = 0x2606560 "Vladimir.Sironja", DomainName =
> 0x26065b0 "EDGE", peUse = SidTypeUser}
> been_here_count = 2
> s_pfn_Lookup_Account_Sid = 0x7ff9e0d9bc20 <LookupAccountSidA>
> hm_advapi32 = 0x7ff9e0d50000
> ret = 5
> (gdb) continue
> Continuing.
> [New Thread 20812.0x4594]
>
> Thread 1 hit Breakpoint 1, lookup_account_sid (lpSystemName=0x0,
> Sid=0x1242d4, Name=0xbfdb30 "\220\\q̨\177", cbName=0xbfdb2c,
> DomainName=0xbfd720 "P3\022", cbDomainName=0xbfd71c, peUse=0xbfdc38)
>     at w32.c:701
> 701       HMODULE hm_advapi32 = NULL;
> (gdb) bt
> #0  lookup_account_sid (lpSystemName=0x0, Sid=0x1242d4, Name=0xbfdb30
> "\220\\q̨\177", cbName=0xbfdb2c, DomainName=0xbfd720 "P3\022",
> cbDomainName=0xbfd71c, peUse=0xbfdc38) at w32.c:701
> #1  0x00007ff793792fa6 in get_name_and_id (psd=0x1242c0, id=0xbfeac0,
> nm=0xbfeaf0 "ñ9Þ\003", what=1) at w32.c:5230
> #2  0x00007ff79379308b in get_file_owner_and_group (psd=0x1242c0,
> st=0xbfeab0) at w32.c:5256
> #3  0x00007ff79379379f in stat_worker (path=0x7ff793da0043
> <shortname+3> "Development\\emacs-emacs-29.4\\src\\", buf=0xbfeab0,
> follow_symlinks=0) at w32.c:5504
> #4  0x00007ff793794217 in fstatat (fd=-3041965, name=0x3e7d408
> "c:/Development/emacs-emacs-29.4/src/", st=0xbfeab0, flags=4096) at
> w32.c:5751
> #5  0x00007ff7935d7b79 in emacs_fstatat (dirfd=-3041965,
> filename=0x3e7d408 "c:/Development/emacs-emacs-29.4/src/",
> st=0xbfeab0, flags=4096) at sysdep.c:2338
> #6  0x00007ff793612ab9 in file_attributes (fd=-3041965, name=0x3e7d408
> "c:/Development/emacs-emacs-29.4/src/", dirname=0x0,
> filename=0x3e839a4, id_format=0x0) at dired.c:1016
> #7  0x00007ff793612a1e in Ffile_attributes (filename=0x3e839a4,
> id_format=0x0) at dired.c:962
> #8  0x00007ff7936810f6 in funcall_subr (subr=0x7ff793c824a0
> <Sfile_attributes>, numargs=1, args=0x4cbd070) at eval.c:3040
> #9  0x00007ff7936d99a3 in exec_byte_code (fun=0x44e227d,
> args_template=513, nargs=2, args=0x4cbd200) at bytecode.c:809
> #10 0x00007ff7936814f2 in fetch_and_exec_byte_code (fun=0x43ee9e5,
> args_template=0, nargs=0, args=0xbff420) at eval.c:3085
> #11 0x00007ff793681899 in funcall_lambda (fun=0x43ee9e5, nargs=0,
> arg_vector=0xbff420) at eval.c:3157
> #12 0x00007ff793681676 in apply_lambda (fun=0x43ee9e5, args=0x0,
> count=...) at eval.c:3107
> #13 0x00007ff79367fb3f in eval_sub (form=0x48a614b) at eval.c:2549
> #14 0x00007ff79367f0af in Feval (form=0x48a614b, lexical=0x0) at eval.c:2365
> #15 0x00007ff7935ae82a in top_level_2 () at keyboard.c:1142
> #16 0x00007ff79367ce04 in internal_condition_case (bfun=0x7ff7935ae803
> <top_level_2>, handlers=0x90, hfun=0x7ff7935adfad <cmd_error>) at
> eval.c:1474
> #17 0x00007ff7935ae87c in top_level_1 (ignore=0x0) at keyboard.c:1150
> #18 0x00007ff79367c4ac in internal_catch (tag=0x103b0,
> func=0x7ff7935ae82f <top_level_1>, arg=0x0) at eval.c:1197
> #19 0x00007ff7935ae6d2 in command_loop () at keyboard.c:1110
> #20 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
> (gdb) info locals
> cache = {ret = 1, Name = 0x2606560 "Vladimir.Sironja", DomainName =
> 0x26065b0 "EDGE", peUse = SidTypeUser}
> been_here_count = 3
> s_pfn_Lookup_Account_Sid = 0x7ff9e0d9bc20 <LookupAccountSidA>
> hm_advapi32 = 0x0
> ret = 0
> (gdb) continue
> Continuing.
>
> Thread 1 hit Breakpoint 1, lookup_account_sid (lpSystemName=0x0,
> Sid=0x1242f0, Name=0xbfdb30 "Vladimir.Sironja", cbName=0xbfdb2c,
> DomainName=0xbfd720 "EDGE", cbDomainName=0xbfd71c, peUse=0xbfdc38)
>     at w32.c:701
> 701       HMODULE hm_advapi32 = NULL;
> (gdb) bt
> #0  lookup_account_sid (lpSystemName=0x0, Sid=0x1242f0, Name=0xbfdb30
> "Vladimir.Sironja", cbName=0xbfdb2c, DomainName=0xbfd720 "EDGE",
> cbDomainName=0xbfd71c, peUse=0xbfdc38) at w32.c:701
> #1  0x00007ff793792fa6 in get_name_and_id (psd=0x1242c0, id=0xbfeac4,
> nm=0xbfebf4 "", what=2) at w32.c:5230
> #2  0x00007ff7937930c2 in get_file_owner_and_group (psd=0x1242c0,
> st=0xbfeab0) at w32.c:5258
> #3  0x00007ff79379379f in stat_worker (path=0x7ff793da0043
> <shortname+3> "Development\\emacs-emacs-29.4\\src\\", buf=0xbfeab0,
> follow_symlinks=0) at w32.c:5504
> #4  0x00007ff793794217 in fstatat (fd=-3041965, name=0x3e7d408
> "c:/Development/emacs-emacs-29.4/src/", st=0xbfeab0, flags=4096) at
> w32.c:5751
> #5  0x00007ff7935d7b79 in emacs_fstatat (dirfd=-3041965,
> filename=0x3e7d408 "c:/Development/emacs-emacs-29.4/src/",
> st=0xbfeab0, flags=4096) at sysdep.c:2338
> #6  0x00007ff793612ab9 in file_attributes (fd=-3041965, name=0x3e7d408
> "c:/Development/emacs-emacs-29.4/src/", dirname=0x0,
> filename=0x3e839a4, id_format=0x0) at dired.c:1016
> #7  0x00007ff793612a1e in Ffile_attributes (filename=0x3e839a4,
> id_format=0x0) at dired.c:962
> #8  0x00007ff7936810f6 in funcall_subr (subr=0x7ff793c824a0
> <Sfile_attributes>, numargs=1, args=0x4cbd070) at eval.c:3040
> #9  0x00007ff7936d99a3 in exec_byte_code (fun=0x44e227d,
> args_template=513, nargs=2, args=0x4cbd200) at bytecode.c:809
> #10 0x00007ff7936814f2 in fetch_and_exec_byte_code (fun=0x43ee9e5,
> args_template=0, nargs=0, args=0xbff420) at eval.c:3085
> #11 0x00007ff793681899 in funcall_lambda (fun=0x43ee9e5, nargs=0,
> arg_vector=0xbff420) at eval.c:3157
> #12 0x00007ff793681676 in apply_lambda (fun=0x43ee9e5, args=0x0,
> count=...) at eval.c:3107
> #13 0x00007ff79367fb3f in eval_sub (form=0x48a614b) at eval.c:2549
> #14 0x00007ff79367f0af in Feval (form=0x48a614b, lexical=0x0) at eval.c:2365
> #15 0x00007ff7935ae82a in top_level_2 () at keyboard.c:1142
> #16 0x00007ff79367ce04 in internal_condition_case (bfun=0x7ff7935ae803
> <top_level_2>, handlers=0x90, hfun=0x7ff7935adfad <cmd_error>) at
> eval.c:1474
> #17 0x00007ff7935ae87c in top_level_1 (ignore=0x0) at keyboard.c:1150
> #18 0x00007ff79367c4ac in internal_catch (tag=0x103b0,
> func=0x7ff7935ae82f <top_level_1>, arg=0x0) at eval.c:1197
> #19 0x00007ff7935ae6d2 in command_loop () at keyboard.c:1110
> #20 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
> (gdb) info locals
> cache = {ret = 1, Name = 0x2606560 "Vladimir.Sironja", DomainName =
> 0x26065b0 "EDGE", peUse = SidTypeUser}
> been_here_count = 4
> s_pfn_Lookup_Account_Sid = 0x7ff9e0d9bc20 <LookupAccountSidA>
> hm_advapi32 = 0x0
> ret = 0
> (gdb) continue
> Continuing.
> [New Thread 20812.0x4f7c]
> [New Thread 20812.0x6d38]
> [New Thread 20812.0x4a54]
>
> here emacs comes  up.
>
> So for some reason been_here_count = 4.

This tells me:

  . the first 2 calls are from init_user_info, where we obtain and
    record the user SID and the Group SID of your user
  . the next 2 calls are from file-attributes, where Emacs for some
    reason needed to obtain the owner and owner's group of the
    directory "c:/Development/emacs-emacs-29.4/src"

These are different calls for different purposes: they obtain both the
user and group SID (which are different SID values), and there's no
guarantee that the directory "c:/Development/emacs-emacs-29.4/src" is
necessarily owned by your user.

So I don't see how caching could help here, and still produce the
correct results.

You could avoid the second pair of calls (and many similar calls in
other cases where Emacs calls file-attributes) if you set the variable
w32-get-true-file-attributes to the nil value.  Maybe this makes
startup faster in your case.