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From: Daniel Hackney <dan@haxney.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Chong Yidong <cyd@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Re: package.el changes before the feature freeze
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:39:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMqXDZsJnu-odZJffsWmyqddTKYzGDiEuo-1mj6sjvhwi5b65Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvk3uzpmxa.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>> the associated test cases). Updating packages cleanly is currently
>> bugged; Emacs still expects the docstrings to be at the old location,
>> but if it is deleted (which is what `package-menu-mark-upgrades' offers
>> to do), you will get "could not find docstring" errors which break
>> certain commands.
>
> The general rule is that failure to find the docstring should not
> break commands.  I've fixed a few such cases recently, but if you find
> more, please report them.  Even without package.el the file might
> disappear or be replaced and that's usually no justification to break the
> whole command (e.g. describe-function/variable is still useful even if the
> docstring is not found).

The only case in which I have experienced problems from an updated
package is with the package "helm" which is not in the Emacs core. I
could try to track down the problem and solve it within the helm
library. I'll report back here if I find anything which looks like a
core Emacs bug.

I also remember having some trouble with installing or resuming an
aborted install and getting "file exists" errors. I'd have to dig a
little to remember what exactly was happening; if I find anything I'll
start a new thread about it.

But the main point is: I think we would be well-served by pulling these
changes into 24.3 because it does not affect the user interface at all
and is therefore not going against the idea of a feature freeze, cleans
up the namespace by removing `define-package', and will make debugging
package.el for the release of 24.3 easier by using consistent variable
names and types throughout the library.

--
Daniel Hackney



  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-09 21:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-30 16:58 package.el changes before the feature freeze Daniel Hackney
2012-09-30 20:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-30 23:50   ` Daniel Hackney
2012-10-01  1:21     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-01  3:11 ` Chong Yidong
2012-10-03  0:33   ` Daniel Hackney
2012-10-03 22:41   ` [PATCH] " Daniel Hackney
2012-10-04  8:16     ` Chong Yidong
2012-10-05 23:13       ` Daniel Hackney
2012-10-06  1:38         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-08  2:32           ` Chong Yidong
2012-10-08 19:16           ` Daniel Hackney
2012-10-08 19:50             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-09  1:11               ` Daniel Hackney
2012-10-09  6:48                 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-09 17:07                   ` Daniel Hackney
2012-10-09 17:39                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-09 21:39                       ` Daniel Hackney [this message]
2012-10-09 22:25                         ` Glenn Morris
2012-10-12  3:58                         ` Chong Yidong

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