From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: suvayu ali Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Poll about proposed change in DEL (aka Backspace) and Delete Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 09:33:39 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87litcvtu2.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4E8A8B64.9090705@arlsoft.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1317713658 15025 80.91.229.12 (4 Oct 2011 07:34:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 07:34:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-delete-poll@gnu.org To: MBR Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 04 09:34:10 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RAzVy-0002RO-H2 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 09:34:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56390 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RAzVx-0007HL-QP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 03:34:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44080) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RAzVr-0007H5-Mk for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 03:34:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RAzVq-0005sF-HI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 03:34:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-bw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.214.41]:45944) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RAzVo-0005rk-Ih; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 03:34:00 -0400 Original-Received: by bkbzs2 with SMTP id zs2so373562bkb.0 for ; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 00:33:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xna2kPkq51ye/uGUx8I+wZjz/QVfAh/Hwa/zYeuaR4w=; b=LGbBLGASNTRVQAWIBhHAFzEi85+2R9UOd/4BrbkWFxnzUnXVEbBtNXQm6KFt26TW91 AKP2yPDFfTWey4JJgpyasLasQ5hI0wbzN9C9r3IXN12B3KhYYw1U+FQKZmlScO5OjyhM 4neI/qBSGDLelLgUTCS0NfcfKzqFg6GQvc2Us= Original-Received: by 10.204.4.138 with SMTP id 10mr473441bkr.374.1317713639103; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 00:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.205.113.142 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 00:33:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E8A8B64.9090705@arlsoft.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: Kl5IEjANnr_l1k1lFjphhMOiCC8 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.214.41 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:82437 Archived-At: Hi Mark, On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:28 AM, MBR wrote: > If I understand the proposal correctly, the idea is to bind the function > normally bound to C-w to the BACKSPACE key and the Delete key.=A0 Have I = got > that right? > > As things currently stand, there are three different kinds of delete > functionality I use: delete 1 character backward, delete 1 character > forward, and delete the marked region.=A0 For over 25 years I've been use= d to > those functions being invoked by BACKSPACE, C-d, and C-w respectively.=A0= Yes, > I could retrain myself, just as I had to do years ago when IBM put the CT= RL > key in the wrong place.=A0 But it will inevitably be a big pain. > I think you are misunderstanding the change. The proposal says if there is an active region, pressing the DEL key would delete either the active region (if present) or one character forward. You can still use C-w instead, the difference being using DEL won't append the text to the kill ring but C-w will. To try out this behaviour, you can use Emacs 24 pretest or the BZR head. I hope this clears up the proposal. --=20 Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free.