From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jai Dayal Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Does anyone really use emacs in terminal? Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 00:32:24 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0112c3904aaaaf04dbf11385 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1367728380 17243 80.91.229.3 (5 May 2013 04:33:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 04:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Steven Degutis , "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" To: Le Wang Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 05 06:32:59 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UYqd8-00085c-Kd for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 06:32:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55154 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYqd8-0004Z7-6w for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 00:32:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38376) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYqcw-0004Yw-L4 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 00:32:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYqcv-000816-HP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 00:32:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ie0-x236.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c03::236]:64483) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYqcv-00080y-Bl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 00:32:45 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id a14so3094013iee.13 for ; Sat, 04 May 2013 21:32:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=cvz8uLzImAvgOg79vpYo2+UBWmAnFnpmH+pYsyJWQ2U=; b=C0V8M+SGxuwkqfTUoY4PQcdhLFiesK6YhO8jovNPUgT2tkHzOfDTIbyustbQ2x7qmF rmxV782FO+TLVs7BjVbx+VhF5vB7Ed6inzuinyBC4LQNadeI9Z3U9+FYtZGat9NC9WNL k8R/qopqQXD9dPMhQ9XhAYBQF1Z+Mabxal/LGeTI8FiyueSupOurHnsk6JC7Co4GGMvl KiYehk2tO65LTOYs4A8RZpFpGo0jMJZsRJodG814x2HrgZLewWNa+tMB7U/QceSJDP/X bu6gWVA3u9ySw3rlw1K3VssSb0PGPOYqlt6p0Z2+FvV9oKcPPkznVxR05NP5QM1LpnzX ntpA== X-Received: by 10.50.12.40 with SMTP id v8mr1206898igb.15.1367728364102; Sat, 04 May 2013 21:32:44 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.50.73.102 with HTTP; Sat, 4 May 2013 21:32:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::236 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:90492 Archived-At: --089e0112c3904aaaaf04dbf11385 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I do. I use it mostly over ssh on supercomputers.. no need to forward X11 sessions and all that junk. I would say I never use emacs without the terminal. On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 11:58 PM, Le Wang wrote: > The cool kids do it. > > You can find many screencasts of people doing everything in terminal > and proselytising the simplicity and lack of distractions of such a work > flow. They don't mention the lack of features, and the pitfalls. > > As a result a lot of the newbie questions on stackoverflow and here are > "Why dozn't M-return work with me Emacs?" and "How comez when I can't > cut'n'paste from Emacs?". > > This is frustratingly detrimental to Emacs adoption because the new user's > initial experience with Emacs is "fixing" it. > > > On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Steven Degutis wrote: > >> What's the use-case for having the terminal be able to act as an editor? >> >> For me it's rather the other way around, I use the terminal within my >> editor (eshell). >> >> Seems like there's no real point in supporting terminal-mode in a text >> editor these days. >> >> -Steven >> >> > > > -- > Le > --089e0112c3904aaaaf04dbf11385 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I do. I use it mostly over ssh on supercomputers.. no need= to forward X11 sessions and all that junk. I would say I never use emacs w= ithout the terminal.


On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 11:58 PM, Le Wang <l26wang@gmail.com>= wrote:
The cool kids do it.

You can find many = screencasts of people doing everything in terminal and=A0proselytising=A0th= e simplicity and lack of distractions of such a work flow. =A0They don'= t mention the lack of features, and the pitfalls.

As a result a lot of the newbie questions on stackoverf= low and here are "Why dozn't M-return work with me Emacs?" an= d "How comez when I can't cut'n'paste from Emacs?".

This is frustratingly detrimental to Emacs adoption bec= ause the new user's initial experience with Emacs is "fixing"= it.


On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Steven Degutis <sbdegutis@gmail.com= > wrote:
What's the use-case for having the terminal be able to act as an editor= ?

For me it's rather the other way around, I use the terminal within my editor (eshell).

Seems like there's no real point in supporting terminal-mode in a text<= br> editor these days.

-Steven




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