From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jai Dayal Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: A guide on setting up C/C++ development environment for Emacs Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:27:44 -0400 Message-ID: References: <513ad0e2-f7f4-484c-b17b-7c94a8c2fc7a@googlegroups.com> <8738chaieo.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87tx4x9353.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ppfl91ft.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87lhq98zoy.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ha0x8xbh.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1409228910 9673 80.91.229.3 (28 Aug 2014 12:28:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 12:28:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs To: Rusi Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 28 14:28:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XMyoP-0008I6-V4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 14:28:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36314 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XMyoP-0005yp-6Q for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:28:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39985) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XMyoA-0005ye-NH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:28:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XMyo9-0003Id-2y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:28:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vc0-x234.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c03::234]:45335) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XMyo8-0003IV-T2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:28:05 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-vc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id lf12so663203vcb.25 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 05:28:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=6C/RISAQ+fG8mreEavQ3jOXupW2GGD7FQwWjGV5zRhk=; b=A5weYE6N+sv4z27JHdwbgkZQg/eodquJDSrOrVeh7R9p6n7UPJ8qfpUKU5jH5c0qpv BsbXTD9j3w+egP5SbT+05lf5yYChnEsfN//lpYI4axa+Y69O7sthuSDViCx8+MhVe575 GS0aLVgmWvlibkABrw8F0yOraGd7o5Z1u7oeIISOiFc9a2cI0ucEcNHV068dLy8YPY1I dXt8UpsYV7BbCY+I50VBS8TOfwts2LgBzpI0VQmU88nD7Isf5lm+Zx5fnjUdZ5/uOCK9 0Cd3sjefzFQfrlzZwUbP8E9jMBzhUX6B99Dm70qgkVKWkyEniK3gQrqsZqExOy7VUD9N ZVUQ== X-Received: by 10.220.105.201 with SMTP id u9mr2692740vco.11.1409228884248; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 05:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.221.24.82 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 05:27:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::234 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:99460 Archived-At: > In my experience the scientific types are more bigoted than the religious ones. Okay, how many people have been killed in the name of science vs. killed in the name of religion? On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Rusi wrote: > On Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:59:32 AM UTC+5:30, =C3=93scar Fuentes wrot= e: > > Rusi writes: > > > [snip] > > > > Personally I often find FLOSS folks at least as dishonest as the > corporate types > > > [No surprise, given that human beings are the same...] > > On second thought I'd tone that down - "at least as dishonest" to "just a= s > dishonest" > And then it directly and trivially follows from "human beings are human > beings" > > > Completely agree. The cause of the dishonesty varies, through. The FLOS= S > > folks tend to think "what is good for me must be good for everybody > > else, and those who think different are idiots." Also, they put more > > value on following group thinking than on doing cold assessments, even > > on those matters that can be assesed on objective terms. BTW, this is > > characteristic of religious behavior (or religious behavior is just > > another expression of those attitudes.) > > Sorry I cant let that pass without a protest! In my experience the > scientific types are more bigoted than the religious ones. As an > antidote to bigotry - which is probably what you mean by 'religious > behavior' - I recommend the following words of Nagarjuna: > > | Everything is real and is not real, > | Both real and not real, > | Neither real nor not real. > | This is Lord Buddha's teaching. > > About group-think: Yes its not nice. But oftentimes very necessary. > Here is something I wrote on the python-list just yesterday about why > one should choose git over other VCSes. > > | In modern society we are part users, part masters. It may be 99% user > | 1% master if one is super-intelligent versatile etc -- renaissance men. > | > | For us more ordinary folk it is more like 99.99% vs 0.01% > | Eg I dont know how to repair the car I drive, build the roads they run > on, > | a frigging clue about the internals of the utilities > (electricity/water...) > | I consume etc. Heck this is even true of computers -- the SMPS? the > Disk? > | > | Likewise versioning systems. > | We need to use them. We dont need to master all the details > | and possibilities. > | > | Git has won the battle -- maybe because of the mystique around the > | name 'Torvalds', maybe for sound technical reasons. It doesn't matter. > | If you have better things in your life than becoming a phd in versionin= g, > | I'd say flow with the tide and switch to git >