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From: Jai Dayal <dayalsoap@gmail.com>
To: Rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: A guide on setting up C/C++ development environment for Emacs
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:27:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMJ-YiSzhisV9pyf+S+dSk48JQZGydOW=6sPDJVme-ZuvgcU6Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a14b0508-8a79-4703-a2dc-12e62e0c6556@googlegroups.com>

> In my experience the
scientific types are more bigoted than the religious ones.

Okay, how many people have been killed in the name of science vs. killed in
the name of religion?


On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:59:32 AM UTC+5:30, Óscar Fuentes wrote:
> > Rusi writes:
>
> > [snip]
>
> > > Personally I often find FLOSS folks at least as dishonest as the
> corporate types
> > > [No surprise, given that human beings are the same...]
>
> On second thought I'd tone that down - "at least as dishonest" to "just as
> dishonest"
> And then it directly and trivially follows from "human beings are human
> beings"
>
> > Completely agree. The cause of the dishonesty varies, through. The FLOSS
> > folks tend to think "what is good for me must be good for everybody
> > else, and those who think different are idiots." Also, they put more
> > value on following group thinking than on doing cold assessments, even
> > on those matters that can be assesed on objective terms. BTW, this is
> > characteristic of religious behavior (or religious behavior is just
> > another expression of those attitudes.)
>
> Sorry I cant let that pass without a protest!  In my experience the
> scientific types are more bigoted than the religious ones.  As an
> antidote to bigotry - which is probably what you mean by 'religious
> behavior' - I recommend the following words of Nagarjuna:
>
> | Everything is real and is not real,
> | Both real and not real,
> | Neither real nor not real.
> | This is Lord Buddha's teaching.
>
> About group-think: Yes its not nice. But oftentimes very necessary.
> Here is something I wrote on the python-list just yesterday about why
> one should choose git over other VCSes.
>
> | In modern society we are part users, part masters.  It may be 99% user
> | 1% master if one is super-intelligent versatile etc -- renaissance men.
> |
> | For us more ordinary folk it is more like 99.99% vs 0.01%
> | Eg I dont know how to repair the car I drive, build the roads they run
> on,
> | a frigging clue about the internals of the utilities
> (electricity/water...)
> | I consume etc.  Heck this is even true of computers -- the SMPS? the
> Disk?
> |
> | Likewise versioning systems.
> | We need to use them. We dont need to master all the details
> | and possibilities.
> |
> | Git has won the battle -- maybe because of the mystique around the
> | name 'Torvalds', maybe for sound technical reasons. It doesn't matter.
> | If you have better things in your life than becoming a phd in versioning,
> | I'd say flow with the tide and switch to git
>


  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-28 12:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-27  7:05 A guide on setting up C/C++ development environment for Emacs solidius4747
2014-08-27 12:48 ` Dmitriy Igrishin
2014-08-27 13:18   ` Tu Hoang Do
2014-08-27 14:15     ` Dmitriy Igrishin
     [not found]       ` <CAMd9FiKzwc1QKa3KtZPFpTGs86bupRptFqL_WwCSE3kPGARXfg@mail.gmail.com>
2014-08-27 14:53         ` Fwd: " Tu Hoang Do
     [not found]           ` <CAAfz9KNL25WboPXG87Azd_6yVr8zrx6hNrCsmuWs6w_XTvdspQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]             ` <CAMd9FiJyjk78a-3yMatvca3qp+pr4O+GmDp03ZqFSkpAEoxhGw@mail.gmail.com>
2014-08-27 18:14               ` Tu Hoang Do
2014-08-27 18:15                 ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 18:37                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-27 18:42                     ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 18:42                       ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 18:52                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-27 19:05                           ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 19:28                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-27 19:32                               ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 20:06                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-27 20:11                                   ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 20:57                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-27 23:17                                       ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 23:47                                         ` Óscar Fuentes
     [not found]                                       ` <mailman.7678.1409181490.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-28  3:30                                         ` Rusi
2014-08-28  3:33                                           ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-28  4:29                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
     [not found]                                           ` <mailman.7693.1409200204.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-28  5:39                                             ` Rusi
2014-08-28 12:27                                               ` Jai Dayal [this message]
     [not found]                                               ` <mailman.7714.1409228889.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-28 15:53                                                 ` solidius4747
2014-08-28 21:22                                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-28 22:24                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-28 23:28                                                       ` Dmitry
2014-08-29  0:02                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
     [not found]                                                       ` <mailman.7793.1409270604.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-29  3:35                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-29  6:06                                                     ` David Engster
2014-08-29 13:09                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-29 13:16                                                         ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-29 13:45                                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-29 13:52                                                         ` David Engster
2014-08-29 14:16                                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
     [not found]                                                     ` <mailman.7808.1409292429.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-29 13:15                                                       ` Rusi
2014-08-28 17:08                                                 ` Rusi
2014-08-28 17:13                                                   ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-28 19:43                                                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-08-28 19:47                                                       ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-28 20:15                                                         ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]                                                   ` <mailman.7743.1409246061.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-28 17:26                                                     ` Rusi
2014-08-28 23:01                                                   ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-08-27 18:45                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-27 14:39     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
     [not found]     ` <mailman.7608.1409150189.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-27 15:01       ` solidius4747
2014-08-27 18:31         ` Óscar Fuentes
     [not found] <mailman.127014.1409321829.1146.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-29 14:33 ` Tory S. Anderson
2014-08-29 17:21   ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-29 18:11     ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-08-29 18:15       ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-29 18:27       ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-08-29 18:34         ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-29 19:17           ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]     ` <mailman.7863.1409335908.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-30  3:43       ` Rusi
2014-08-30  7:24         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-08-30 21:27         ` Jai Dayal
     [not found]         ` <mailman.7951.1409434065.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-31  1:53           ` Rusi

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